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  • #61
    Originally posted by Dinner View Post
    2) Masks made no measurable impact on transmission. In short, they didn't work.
    The Cochrane study was talking about cloth masks in and around town with loose real world 'compliance'. Every study I've seen done on quality masks with indoor settings like hospitals show a reduction. Even cheap cloth masks will catch droplets carrying a heavier viral load.

    8) The advise to get your second dose of the vaccine 3-4 weeks after the first was completely wrong. You get no less protection waiting three months and doing so massively decreases the chance for negative side effects as well as increases immunity.
    It really pisses me off how badly they screwed this up, the 1st shot wiped out the 2nd shot before it could work. And thats not even getting into their involvement unleashing this plague on humanity.

    10) It was a lie that 20% of people got long COVID, the new data says only 3%, and even that is likely a vast over count by medicalizing normal human life.
    The data I've seen estimated 20% from the initial waves and has been dropping, the last number I saw was about 7% with Omicron variants, 3% is small enough to not be a factor. I'm worried about the damage Covid did to people that wont show up right away, but the human body tries to heal. I expect some of these excess deaths are coming from Covid survivors who didn't heal.

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    • #62
      The only masks which work are N95 and they have to be changed every 15 minutes. Anything else was just show which had no impact on transmission or infection rates. The article I linked covered that.
      Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Dinner View Post
        The only masks which work are N95 and they have to be changed every 15 minutes. Anything else was just show which had no impact on transmission or infection rates. The article I linked covered that.
        IIRC the studies that showed good results with N95 masks had mask replacement requirements but not on a time interval. Do you remember where you read that the masks were ineffective after just 15 minutes?

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        • #64
          It was an expert on Fox about how N95s degrade due to moisture in the breath so in medical settings they were supposed to be replaced every 15 minutes or whenever they change rooms (all PPE needed to be changed before changing rooms to prevent cross contamination) which ever is first.
          Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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          • #65
            The MRNA vaccines seem to have, at least some cases, some very bad side effects according to a British study. Damage includes brain damaged and death of neurons in the brain. Please watch.

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            • #66
              I'm naturally suspicious of research that gets its peer review on a Darkhorse podcast and their self published websites. why do you trust them? Have you looked at their other zany claims?

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Geronimo View Post
                I'm naturally suspicious of research that gets its peer review on a Darkhorse podcast and their self published websites. why do you trust them? Have you looked at their other zany claims?
                It was originally covered by Campbell in the UK, the autopsy and medical research was done by a reputable UK medical outfit. So you can go back to those sources if you hate the messenger so much. Pleas go back to the original source if you please.
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                • #68
                  I tried to find his publications via pubmed for a while and gave up. If you can find another hint or a link to one of his podcasts that includes references let me know.

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                  • #69


                    'In the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, when little was known about the novel virus, the U.K. government briefly considered asking the public to exterminate every cat amid fears that the pets could spread the disease.'

                    'Despite this, there have been examples of some countries pursuing the mass culling of animals or pets in a bid to contain the virus. Hong Kong tested and euthanized some 2,000 hamsters in January 2022, after several tested positive for the virus in the weeks prior. Earlier on in the pandemic, in November 2020, Denmark culled 17 million minks over fears that a mutation could be transferred from minks to humans.'

                    jhc these people are dangerous

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                    • #70
                      WRT the use of masks which we discussed earlier.

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                      • #71
                        Chemists from the University of North Carolina at Greensboro released a study in the journal Antioxidants revealing a new basis for the link between dietary selenium and COVID-19 severity. Building on a previous study that identified a set of six host proteins potentially targeted by SARS-CoV-2, their study confirmed cleavage of three previously predicted protein target sites from selenoproteins, which have antioxidant and antiviral defensive roles.


                        Buy Brazil Nuts and eat 2-3 a day for the selenium

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                        • #72
                          I hadn't heard that one but have seen good data that Vit D levels being very important wrt COVID severity. I have been taking Vit D supplements since early 2020.
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                          • pchang
                            pchang commented
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                            The important part is the actual vitamin D levels in your blood. You need a test to see if the supplements are enough or if you need to up the dose. Despite the "normal" guidelines - try to be >= 50.

                        • #73
                          Watch the Full Podcast Here https://youtu.be/Ki7DtIRMRB0Listen to the Show on all Podcast Apps "Club Random with Bill Maher" https://podcasts.apple.com/us/p...
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                          • #74
                            nevermind...

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                            • #75
                              'studies have found that infection rates for healthcare workers wearing respirators in intensive care units with COVID-19 patients are much lower than in other healthcare settings.23–25 This fact alone demonstrates that respirators and other measures such as negative-pressure rooms will protect healthcare workers from SARS-CoV-2 aerosols.'

                              ​​​​​​https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/...ratory-viruses

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