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  • Originally posted by Ming View Post

    It will be interesting how you will eventually "claim" victory after NOT accomplishing what you set out to do.
    But I'm sure you will come up with some made up BS!

    Your media is BS (a brainwashing propaganda machine).
    We will claim victory after they'll sign a capitulation.
    And since they are just a puppet, that means - when you will sign a capitulation!

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    • We don't even start fo fighting yet, morons, and using only 20% of our regular army to rotate you on our dicks as we like. It's like a cat playing with mouse before killing it.
      And you are creming your pants about the cat is going slowly, idiots!

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      • Originally posted by Serb View Post
        We will claim victory after they'll sign a capitulation.
        And since they are just a puppet, that means - when you will sign a capitulation!
        How does that make any sense? What possible leverage would the US have on Ukraine to offset the enormous leverage Russia has? What's the US going to? cutoff weapons and funding if Ukraine agrees to be Russia's puppet instead? Can't you see how meaningless that threat would be at this point?

        There is no way the US could control Ukraine as a puppet in these circumstances. Influence sure, but only to the extent that the carrots and sticks available to the US are greater than those of Russia. It should be obvious they are not. Russia can offer peace and nobody else can or will.

        At this stage, obviously Ukraine is nobody's puppet. The behavior of the state and people is consistent with a particularly willful nation.

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        • For some reason the Russian invasion of the Ukraine reminds of one my invasions of a neighbour last century while playing Civilisation 1.

          I had more units than my neighbour, all modern stuff such as tank, bombers and battleships versus their legions, chariots and rowing boats.

          My entire invasion force was completely destroyed without killing a single enemy unit.

          I made peace and wiped them out later.

          That was a memorable war. I have not had such a ridiculous result in the over 25 years since that game.

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          • Originally posted by Serb View Post
            We don't even start fo fighting yet, morons, and using only 20% of our regular army to rotate you on our dicks as we like. It's like a cat playing with mouse before killing it.
            And you are creming your pants about the cat is going slowly, idiots!
            What fraction of Russia's overall military is committed as ground forces?

            What fraction of those available ground forces are deployed to Ukraine already?

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            • Originally posted by Geronimo View Post

              How does that make any sense? What possible leverage would the US have on Ukraine to offset the enormous leverage Russia has? What's the US going to? cutoff weapons and funding if Ukraine agrees to be Russia's puppet instead? Can't you see how meaningless that threat would be at this point? There is no way the US could control Ukraine as a puppet in these circumstances. Influence sure, but only to the extent that the carrots and sticks available to the US are greater than those of Russia. It should be obvious they are not. Russia can offer peace and nobody else can or will.

              You have supplied, trained and governed this puppet of yours for an eight years while they were murdering MY PEOPLE on the daily basis!
              Despite we had mercy on them after their capitiulation in 2015 and wanted to resolve everything peacfully, letting them to keep rebel Republics de-facto inside Ukraine on a terms of wide autonomy.
              YOU, once again - YOU who are responsible for that bloodshed!
              We have waited for a seven years for your puppet to fulfill what it has signed but instead they (and you) were leaking their wound and planning another attack and the "final solution".
              You left us no choice!
              And YOU and YOUR PUPPET will be defeated!

              At this stage, obviously Ukraine is nobody's puppet. The behavior of the state and people is consistent with a particularly willful nation.
              You have installed your people to any branches of Ukranian goverment after the Maidan. Your vice president (Jonny Biden) have fired the general presecutor of Ukraine for initiating the case for corruption against his corrupt and drug addict son, who have recieved hundreds of thousand dollars for nothing, being de-juro in Burismo high command.

              Nobody's puppet, my as$!!!
              The whole West stood-up for Ukraine, because she is "YOUR dauther of *****", if I refrase Nixon.

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              • We did it once, we'll did it again.
                Period!

                Your puppet will be crushed!

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                • Originally posted by Geronimo View Post

                  What fraction of Russia's overall military is committed as ground forces?
                  What fraction of those available ground forces are deployed to Ukraine already?
                  20-25% out of our one million+ professional regular army.
                  That is 200-250k against 600k after they have declared three waves of mobilisation.
                  And only God knows how many of them we have killed already.

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                  • A perfect clowns parade!!!

                    Not your puppet, my as$!!!

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                    • A f*cking clowns (the whole West of yours)!

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                        • Originally posted by Serb View Post
                          And only God knows how many of them we have killed already.
                          Yep, only God knows that, or how many of your soldiers have been killed already,
                          Because your leaders won't tell you the truth. Maybe if you talked to God you would know what's actually going on.

                          Keep on Civin'
                          RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                          • I don't need to talk to God to know what is going on.
                            The World War 3 is going on!
                            And we rotate your puppet on our dick as we like!

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                            • But, you can keep living in your fantasy Western World, where your puppet is winning by losing its territory and military personel every day!

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                              • Originally posted by Serb View Post


                                You have supplied, trained and governed this puppet of yours for an eight years while they were murdering MY PEOPLE on the daily basis!
                                Despite we had mercy on them after their capitiulation in 2015 and wanted to resolve everything peacfully, letting them to keep rebel Republics de-facto inside Ukraine on a terms of wide autonomy.
                                YOU, once again - YOU who are responsible for that bloodshed!
                                We have waited for a seven years for your puppet to fulfill what it has signed but instead they (and you) were leaking their wound and planning another attack and the "final solution".
                                You left us no choice!
                                And YOU and YOUR PUPPET will be defeated!



                                You have installed your people to any branches of Ukranian goverment after the Maidan. Your vice president (Jonny Biden) have fired the general presecutor of Ukraine for initiating the case for corruption against his corrupt and drug addict son, who have recieved hundreds of thousand dollars for nothing, being de-juro in Burismo high command.

                                Nobody's puppet, my as$!!!
                                The whole West stood-up for Ukraine, because she is "YOUR dauther of *****", if I refrase Nixon.
                                It looks like your sole defense of your claim that Ukraine was a puppet is their abhorrent policies and strategic decisions with respect to secessionist Donbas and luhansk which obviously were totally different from Russia's policies and strategic decisions in Chechnya before Russia regained control there.

                                Independent countries can act this way as well Serb...

                                The US and Russia and China and frankly almost every country that isn't a basket case tries to influence and meddle in other countries internal affairs. Making puppets of them is *much* more challenging. It can't be done on the cheap. The US couldn't even convert Iraq and Afghanistan into proper allies, let alone puppets. Why in the hell are you so convinced they succeeded in Ukraine? Is it really just because you can't understand how Ukrainians were so despicable in the separatist territories?

                                Maybe they weren't. Maybe those were lies too like Kuwaiti babies thrown from incubators. Or do you think Putin has no motivation to lie unlike foreigners?

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