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  • Originally posted by Geronimo View Post


    FWIW, I join you in condemning support for the Kosovo and Chechnya, secessions especially any terracts and military interventions to support them. I tolerate some secession movements but I think without a wide spectrum of outside observers to a referendum I don't think they should be granted any legitimacy. You serb, seem to believe the secession of Chechnya was unacceptable but autonomy and eventual secession of Crimea, luhansk, and Donbas was fine. It looks like you have a double standard to explain. I don't.

    Further, for the record I always opposed the way yanukovitch was deposed. His opponents needed to wait for the next election like civilized people. There have been multiple fair open elections since then to render the point moot however.


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    Exactly! The US maintained occupation forces in both and yet neither country acted as a reliable ally, let alone a puppet. How in the hell would the US pull it off in Ukraine?


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    About the terrible war crimes... it's always he said-she said truth and propaganda thoroughly mixed in every ratio. I always wait for the highest standard of evidence and corroboration from impartial observers. That was true in the Balkans, Chechnya, Ukraine, wherever. I am still undecided on the allegations in those places.

    ​​​​​​​You on the other hand just uncritically take whatever Putin shovels your way unfiltered.
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    You're saying Putin dealt with everyone peacefully but the US was using military force against Putin?
    Geronimo, when I've said "you", I specified it: "Now you (the West)". I didn't mean YOU in person!
    The sad fact is that your country had declared my country as YOUR ENEMY on a legislation level in 2018. And now it is war between us in 2022.
    And no matter how I like you personally, I will chew-up a of throat to you and your fellow countrymen, when you decide to come to my place!
    I can promise you that.

    A la guerre comme a la guerre!

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    • just wait a couple a month or two more and russia will be rolling out a trebuchet.

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      • Originally posted by My Wife Hates CIV View Post
        just wait a couple a month or two more and russia will be rolling out a trebuchet.
        This is largely an artillery war, especially on the Ukrainian side. Did you know Russia has more artillery ammunition stockpiled than all of NATO combined? Maybe in a few months it will be Ukraine and NATO resorting to trebuchets for artillery.

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        • this is a tech war - a war russia is not ready for.

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          • Originally posted by My Wife Hates CIV View Post
            this is a tech war - a war russia is not ready for.
            In a prolonged war the high tech toys are the first thing depleted. If this ever was a tech war it won't be decided by tech

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            • Originally posted by Serb View Post

              Geronimo, when I've said "you", I specified it: "Now you (the West)". I didn't mean YOU in person!
              The sad fact is that your country had declared my country as YOUR ENEMY on a legislation level in 2018. And now it is war between us in 2022.
              And no matter how I like you personally, I will chew-up a of throat to you and your fellow countrymen, when you decide to come to my place!
              I can promise you that.

              A la guerre comme a la guerre!
              Serb, in that sense hasn't Russia been declaring NATO an enemy even longer?

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              • No!!!
                Not in any case!
                When Putin was eleceted he tried to join NATO and become the friend of the West. He has been rejected.
                We were trying to become the friends with the West since 80's, but you have just CHEATED AND ROBBED US!!!
                You have proclaimed your cheating as victory and started your further expansion.
                It's over now, Geronimo!
                You will be crushed for your own STUPIDITY, ARROGANCE and IGNORANCE!

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                • War is war!

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                  • You have started it, we will finish it.

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                    • And don't prettend to be silly like Wezil - this war is between you and us.
                      And we will win it, just because the truth is on our side!

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                      • You want to erase us.
                        Like it's something new for us.
                        The only difference now is that we have no more illussions about your lies, as well, as the rest of the World.

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                        • And that is the only reason, why you will lose - we have fooled us once, you will never fool us again!

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                          • Now we know WHAT YOU ARE and will fight to the end, untill you will be defeated!

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                            • Originally posted by Serb View Post

                              You wouldn't mind Russian hypersonic strategic missiles to be placed at Cuba, because every country has a right to sign any defensive treaties it likes, don't you?

                              That will be a three minutes flight to incinerate your Washington D.C.

                              We have S-400 Sams there already. The next step is our strategic thermonuclear hypersonic missiles!

                              According to your non-existant logic Cuba or Nicaragua have all the rights to do so.
                              Agreed! They do! Given the quality of Russian weapons though...NOT worried.
                              "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                              • Originally posted by Serb View Post
                                No!!!
                                Not in any case!
                                When Putin was eleceted he tried to join NATO and become the friend of the West. He has been rejected.
                                We were trying to become the friends with the West since 80's, but you have just CHEATED AND ROBBED US!!!
                                You have proclaimed your cheating as victory and started your further expansion.
                                It's over now, Geronimo!
                                You will be crushed for your own STUPIDITY, ARROGANCE and IGNORANCE!
                                I am sure John Gotti wanted to be a cop when he grew up too.
                                "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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