Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[PLATO]

Well the whole tank thing with Germany was so much fun, it looks like we now get to do it again with warplanes:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64446937

"No planes for you!"

[BeBMan]

In ca. a month it will be a full year.

Serb had promised it would be over after three days. I don't remember anymore if he wanted to nuke everyone before or afterwards.

[giblets]

It's been a long time since Serb posted a map of Ukraine. I have no idea how the war is going.

[BeBMan]

This short Guardian bit explains how Russia sees the tanks issue. Incl. nice vid with an animated battle from Russian tv where Russia wins because Russian tanks are superior! Who'd have guessed.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2023/jan/26/toothless-leopards-and-battered-abrams-russian-tv-mocks-nato-tanks-promised-to-ukraine-video

[Geronimo]

Yes. I might need some pointers from Russians to safely attempt that again.

[pchang]

Did writing that result in a sprained brain from all the mental gymnastics?

[Geronimo]

You know Serb... all these rantings of yours about how great Russia is and how feeble the west or Ukraine is are really laughable. The short story is this war or "special military operation" should have been completed in a week or a month at most. Every time you claim Ukrainian incompetence you are really just admitting to Russia's failure to defeat a vastly inferior opponent and by extension, how incompetent Russia actually is.

Of course Russians like Serb believe that NATO already deployed thousands of trainers and a huge fraction of NATO's weapons and other war materials into Ukraine along with 8 rounds of Ukrainian mobilizations that would supposedly outnumber the Russian expeditionary force involved in the special military operation 10 to 1.

They also believe that while no Russians had been deployed to Ukraine prior to Feb 2022, NATO mercenaries have been assisting the genocide of Russian speakers in Ukraine since 2014 but could not defeat the totally isolated Donbas separatists because of separatist courage and NATO/Nazi puppet incompetence. NATO was engaging in the genocide of Russian speakers in Ukraine because it exists only to defeat the Russian state and genociding Russian speakers in the Donbas is an efficient if cowardly way to accomplish this. Russians believe that the NATO/puppet Nazis responded to an enormous Russian buildup all around Ukraine by dramatically increasing shelling of civilians in separatist areas because that is what NATO doctrine advises when a hostile power sympathetic to the civilians establishes decisive force superiority in the area.


Russians believe that once the special operation began they continually destroyed all NATO/Nazi puppet forces at a casualty and material loss exchange of 10 to 1 in Russia's favor.

Russians only withdrew from the large Kiev region, the large Kharkiv region, and the large Kherson region because they did not expect to be outnumbered 10 to 1 and couldn't fight with maximum effectiveness (even while inflicting 10 to 1 losses on their enemies) because they were so careful to avoid civilian casualties while NATO/Nazi puppets continually shelled and targeted civilians to make Russia look bad. They also left Kherson because it was on the far side of a river which they were annexing both sides of and in such cases the prudent thing to do when you are inflicting 10 to 1 losses on your enemy is to abandon the beachhead in the territory you are annexing and regroup to the near side of the river so you can come back later and get to establish the beachhead from scratch.

So you see, Russia is actually winning they are just too humanitarian and devoted to their Ukrainian brothers to do so without a large mobilization and several regroupings to do so in a way that doesn't waste Ukrainian lives.

[pchang]

Most of the Russian soldiers do not want to be there.

[Buster Crabbe's Uncle]

I gather it's largely the doing of the Embezzleocracy running/bleeding dry Russia.

Like, I expect the Russian soldier and Russian officer and so on aren't hopelessly incompetent. But armies run on their stomachs, and soldiers need ammo. And the food needs to not be wormy and the ammo has to work...

[Donegeal]

You know Serb... all these rantings of yours about how great Russia is and how feeble the west or Ukraine is are really laughable. The short story is this war or "special military operation" should have been completed in a week or a month at most. Every time you claim Ukrainian incompetence you are really just admitting to Russia's failure to defeat a vastly inferior opponent and by extension, how incompetent Russia actually is.

[pchang]

That's what the owners of those plants have been charging the military for and splitting the difference with the generals like Shoigu. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ts-Moscow.html

[Buster Crabbe's Uncle]

? I went to the post and got the same thing. I could certainly like yours. Maybe because of his week off?

[Geronimo]

True.


No matter how I swear, that is just emotions. Poly is a place of my friends.

Mods why does the site pop up a warning that "you cannot give reputation to this user" when we try to like Serbs posts?

[Proteus_MST]

T-14 are all ready there:

You mean the 14 half ready prototypes of the T-14 you have?

[Geronimo]

It's good to see that you consider Byzantium as the Roman Empire, but my point was that you Western upstart have already tried to kil us many times, but failed.

The collective West have a tradition once in a century get together to be ass raped at the end of the day by Russia.

You (USA) as the new leader of this collective West is nothing new and nothing special.
You will be ass raped at the end of the day, as well.

When did Russia, ever, even once, "ass rape" any variation of "the collective West"? Napoleon? Where Moscow got ass raped and burned to the ground?

in general, every time any variation of. "the collective West" set its sites on Russia. the butt hurt experienced by Russia was epic until general winter, general mud and distance made Russia's tormentors give up or get reamed by other western non participants attacking Russia's tormentors...or until Russia cried uncle and signed over a concession of defeat to Russia's vanquishers.