Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[N35t0r]

I also have a question - if Trump thinks that Putin is a great guy and not a threat, but also thinks Europe needs to pay it's NATO 'dues', who exactly does he think NATO countries are actually under threat from? Does he think it's China?

That would imply he followed through with the logic past "whom can I get money out of".

[BeBMan]

I also have a question - if Trump thinks that Putin is a great guy and not a threat, but also thinks Europe needs to pay it's NATO 'dues', who exactly does he think NATO countries are actually under threat from? Does he think it's China?

One word: Woke Russian Generals. Ooops.

[Dinner]

Trump very much does believe Putin is a threat and he has said so for eight years. He has also said he wants to stop the dying from the hot war and replace it with more of a cold war style containment.

[BeBMan]

If the thing is settled soon, I'm very much interested in the issue of reparations. I donated for humanitarian reasons to Ukraine, and if the stuff I basically paid for got damaged or destroyed in the course of an illegal war of aggression I look forward to receive compensation from the good people running the Kremlin, who surely have the highest ethical standards.

[Dinner]

https://youtu.be/lWK_euAwrMk?si=y5RKWGL10CA5aGxU

[Geronimo]

https://youtu.be/lWK_euAwrMk?si=y5RKWGL10CA5aGxU

I wonder which facts in the video Mobius, Serb and Berz would dispute?

[BeBMan]

https://meduza.io/en/feature/2024/12/26/azerbaijani-government-sources-say-russian-missile-likely-downed-passenger-plane-media-reports

[Proteus_MST]

Russia (and its predecessor USSR) are really good at downing civilian airplanes

[BlackCat]

I wonder which facts in the video Mobius, Serb and Berz would dispute?

Pretty sure they also will have something to deny of what's being said in this

[Geronimo]

Too little too late. Russia can hold things together until Trump lets Putin secure a breather in the (self inflicted) war pressure along with relief from practically all sanctions with practically no concessions at the negotiating table or the battlefield.if only the Saudis had gone ahead with their earlier threat to regain market share in December.

[BeBMan]

Russia (and its predecessor USSR) are really good at downing civilian airplanes

Let's hope it doesn't turn into a tradition to do it every decade

[BeBMan]

Too little too late. Russia can hold things together until Trump lets Putin secure a breather in the (self inflicted) war pressure along with relief from practically all sanctions with practically no concessions at the negotiating table or the battlefield.if only the Saudis had gone ahead with their earlier threat to regain market share in December.

Russia Snubs Trump's Call For Ukraine Ceasefire; FM Lavrov Says Open To Talks But Need Security Guarantees

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has dismissed Donald Trump’s calls for an immediate ceasefire in Ukraine, labelling it a “path to nowhere.” While Lavrov expressed openness to dialogue, he emphasized security guarantees and long-term agreements as prerequisites.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/videos/international/russia-snubs-trumps-call-for-ukraine-ceasefire-fm-lavrov-says-open-to-talks-but-need-security-guarantees/videoshow/116686936.cms

The best way to get security guarantees is for Moscow to sign some memorandum, giving up all nukes for said guarantees, like Ukraine did.

[BeBMan]

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cqx8l1533j5o

[BlackCat]

Too little too late. Russia can hold things together until Trump lets Putin secure a breather in the (self inflicted) war pressure along with relief from practically all sanctions with practically no concessions at the negotiating table or the battlefield.if only the Saudis had gone ahead with their earlier threat to regain market share in December.

Christmas etc. I'm a bit confused, are you saying that Trumpfh will pull out of the sanctions against russia ? Because that is the only way he could make life easier for Putin.

I'm pretty sure that things will go bad for russia during 2025-26 especially with their heavy military losses.

[Geronimo]

Christmas etc. I'm a bit confused, are you saying that Trumpfh will pull out of the sanctions against russia ? Because that is the only way he could make life easier for Putin.

I'm pretty sure that things will go bad for russia during 2025-26 especially with their heavy military losses.

Yes. If Putin "deals" with Trump and offers that the US bring about an end to all sanctions as part of the "deal" for "peace" and an "end to the war" I have a horrible suspicion that Trump would be willing to try to make that happen for his "deal". Also a cease fire of any kind in which Putin could reduce the production of military hardware would also serve to allow Russia to try to defuse the economic death spiral. Military output may have been the extremely low multiplier stimulus that grew the Russian economy but it has long since become part of the problem strangling the rest of the economy.