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  • The way you can tell MOBIUS really cares about the poor Ukrainians and their poor country being ruined by US imperialism/a desire not to be conquered is the utter glee with which he reports the failure of their attempts to repel an invasion by a power mad dictator/guy who has no other choice, really, when you think about it.
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    • Uncle Sparky
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      Power mad dictator/guy could give Afghanistan another go... it's his turn.

  • Originally posted by MOBIUS
    I'm on the side of the Ukrainian people...
    I'm on the side of my Ukrainian colleague, who tells us stories of what it was like to live under Soviet oppression, whose niece had to flee Ukraine at the outset of the war, who loves her country and wants it free and independent. Which Ukrainians are you on the side of?

    ...and death to the Palestinians, right...? 😞
    You really aren't paying attention.
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    • Originally posted by MOBIUS

      There is no glee on my part whatsoever - that you think that is clearly a symptom of your own cognitive dissonance on the subject - you're too ****ing brainwashed to see the truth 😥

      I already said it was a stupid idea: it's a way to get them more killed, more quickly, losing their best troops and equipment for nothing.

      I'm on the side of the Ukrainian people, not their leaders and those that influence them in hastening the destruction of their country...

      If anything it's you that's a gleeful accomplice to their destruction, by supporting this folly...

      But hey, to the last Ukrainian and death to the Palestinians, right...? 😞

      Because the US ably aiding and abetting a monster worse than Putin, in the shape of the Israeli state.

      As for Putin, his behaviour is arguably no worse than US foreign policy - maybe he's just more 'honest' in his methods...
      Like those silly poles trying to resist Hitler's army in 1939, they should have just surrendered and they would have suffered much less.
      Indifference is Bliss

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      • Originally posted by MOBIUS

        The Russians blowing up their own pipeline makes no sense whatsoever 🙄

        It was either the Ukrainians, the Americans, or both.
        Maybe, maybe not

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          • It would appear that Putin is trying to in effect expand his army by using conscripts to fight in Kursk. Relatives of the conscripts are starting to complain, but it remains to be seen how effective these complaints will be.
            “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

            ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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            • I thought the incurson/invasion/whateversion would be smashed in three days, but it's two week now...
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              • Originally posted by BeBMan View Post
                I thought the incurson/invasion/whateversion would be smashed in three days, but it's two week now...
                On the one-hand this will increase the military manpower that Putin can use against Ukraine by providing an area where we can use Russia's conscripts against Ukraine so this will be bad for Ukraine. On the other hand Ukraine had basically zero leverage vs Russia in any future negotiations and occupying some Russian territory may provide for that to occur. To really evaluate the decision to invade Russia we would need to know how things would've played out had Ukraine not done so for comparison and obviously no amount of elapsed time is going to reveal that. I'm sure every arm chair general will be claiming that however it plays validates what they have been predicting and recommending all along.

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                • Originally posted by BeBMan View Post
                  I thought the incurson/invasion/whateversion would be smashed in three days, but it's two week now...
                  Syrski has been smartly using geography to Ukraine's advantage by keeping large rivers on each flank this preventing Russia from attacking the flanks. Also, there has been no large organized counter attack by Russia just a bunch of disorganized and fragmented local actions by poorly equipped and poorly trained conscripts. The best Russia has managed so far was a lot of air strikes though Ukraine has put some pretty good air defenses in place which has help.
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                      • Originally posted by giblets View Post
                        Oh.

                        So this is where I found that.

                        Thanks, giblets!

                        No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                        • Anyway, as of 8 hours ago, Ukraine has invaded Belgorad Oblast, Russia.
                          No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                          • Could you link? I follow but not closely.

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                            (I try to remember to pray for Ukraine, Gaza, Israel and Sudan though)
                            (edit: I also pray for Russia, but sometimes I forget)
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                            • Search for BelgorOd here
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