You actually believe Trump made peace in Afghanistan? Wow. That explains a lot.
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“It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”
― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man
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Originally posted by Ming View PostGee... calling Biden "Brandon" sure shows your biases... Blaming Biden for the Drug Wars and creating the Cartels...
And you keep talking about this supposed peace deal? Exactly what was it? Was it one that would have left Ukraine's border intact or was it some massive land steal by Russia... Please provide us with a copy of this supposed deal... and some actual proof that Biden wanted a war.
You still seem to want to show Russia as some kind of good guy who was just trying to protect people, instead of a land grabbing empire who killed and raped the people they claim they were protecting.
Whatever the peace deal was it involved Putin withdrawing the Russian army from Kiev. No, Ukraine would not get Crimea or the Donbas. If it was a land steal Putin wouldn't have waited 8 years, he wanted Minsk where the Donbas remains in Ukraine but with greater autonomy so Azov didn't get to run eastern Ukraine. Maybe we should be asking the people of the Donbas and Crimea what they want, I'd prefer letting them decide who is good or bad. If Azov was actually defending them from a Russian invasion you'd have an argument, but the Donbas was at war with Azov before Russia intervened on their behalf.
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Originally posted by Geronimo View Post
WTF would NATO sign a treaty forbidding Ukraine from ever joining? Already, in Annexing Crimea Putin already had violated the United Nations Charter, the1975 Helsinki Final Act: and the 1997 Russian-Ukrainian Friendship Treaty - just to mention fully binding treaties to say nothing of written commitments like the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances. In signing the treaty in an attempt to placate an unapologetic treaty breaker still in office what possible safety would that have offered to Ukrainians? Anybody in NATO could have literally officially wiped their dirty arses with any draft treaty and it would not extend the tiniest culpability to them for any of Russia's actions. In any case, since logically the the only way that Russia could carry out a threat to invade Ukraine intended to coerce NATO into compliance would be by overtly breaking several treaties, what value would signing the treaty possibly have for NATO since the other party has already indicated that it does not recognize treaties as providing any constraint on its actions? It would be incredibly stupid to sign any treaty in response to a promise to refrain from a certain treaty breaking behavior.
Anyway when you said "draft treaty" I thought you were referring to the quasi-fictional early 2022 draft treaty that supposedly made Putin leave Kiev. You talk about that far more often. Please provide more context.
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Originally posted by pchang View PostPutin did not invade because Trump was weakening NATO. Once Trump was gone and NATO started to strengthen its cohesiveness, there was nothing to be gained from waiting anymore.
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Originally posted by Berzerker View Post
8 years was long enough I guess... Putin invaded for 2 reasons: stop Kiev's attack on the Donbas and ensure Ukraine doesn't become a Nato platform for missiles along the border manned by Azov
And they attacked for only one reason... A land grab/empire building. It's obvious they never cared about the people.
But please keep pushing the "Russians are saviors" narrative...Keep on Civin'
RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O
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Originally posted by BlackCat View PostBlah
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Just rumours for now, so maybe it's something, or just nothing:
Russian President Vladimir Putin suffers cardiac arrest in presidential bedroom, an insider group reveals
Russian President Vladimir Putin has suffered a cardiac arrest in his bedroom following months of speculation over his health, a source has claimed.
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I think they are confusing it with a sudden heart failure and death of another Lukoil executive. Russia suspects foul play as this executive failed to fall out of the window like the last one.One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.
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The Kremlin has rejected speculation about Vladimir Putin’s health, saying the president is fit and well.
In a regular call with reporters, Dmitry Peskov, the Kremlin spokesperson, also denied suggestions that the Russian leader was using body doubles, calling them an “absurd hoax”.(...)
I guess that settles it...Blah
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Putin has been offering peace deals for over 2 years, Nato/Biden said "NYET"... Once Russia is ready to send in the reserves and no deal is made and/if the ground can support heavy machinery the push will come. Maybe... is there a need for it? Russia can sit back and take advantage of their defensive lines while Biden badgers Zelensky into more 'counter offensives'.
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Originally posted by Berzerker View PostPutin has been offering peace deals for over 2 years, Nato/Biden said "NYET"... Once Russia is ready to send in the reserves and no deal is made and/if the ground can support heavy machinery the push will come. Maybe... is there a need for it? Russia can sit back and take advantage of their defensive lines while Biden badgers Zelensky into more 'counter offensives'.
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Biden made Zelensky a better offer... and Azov wouldn't kill him.
and... no, Zelensky couldn't kill Azov and if he tried they'd/we'd kill him. You already know Zelensky got elected to make peace and when he showed up in the Donbas Azov sent him packing with his tail between his legs. He's an actor playing a role and trying to stay alive. When Azov objected to his friend and adviser Zelensky sent his friend packing.
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