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  • I bring you the following gem of AI wisdom courtesy of Bing AI in response to asking "In order for these assertions that the change in government post-Maidan was a "coup" to be true, what sort of definition of "coup" would need to be used?

    In order to assert that the change in government was a “coup”, they would need to use a very broad and vague definition of “coup” that does not match the common or dictionary meaning of the word. According to the dictionary results from my web search, a coup is “a sudden, violent, and unlawful seizure of power from a government” or “a sudden decisive exercise of force in politics and especially the violent overthrow or alteration of an existing government by a small group” 12. However, the change in government in Ukraine in 2014 did not fit this definition for several reasons:
    Therefore, these publications would need to use a definition of “coup” that ignores or distorts these facts and relies on unsubstantiated claims or conspiracy theories. They would also need to disregard the popular will and sovereignty of the Ukrainian people who participated in the protests and voted in the elections. They would also need to overlook the external aggression and interference by Russia that violated Ukraine’s territorial integrity and international law . Such a definition of “coup” would not be credible or accurate.
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    • Berzerker
      Berzerker commented
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      hey Bing, would slaughtering protesters to drive a leader from office qualify as a coup?

  • AI is getting scary.

    Spot on.
    "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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    • "Yanukovych fled the country on February 22, 2014 after losing the support of his own party and security forces."

      I think he fled the evening of the 21st the day after he was framed for the massacre. That was the coup. You keep arguing it wasn't a coup because parliament - in the immediate aftermath of a massacre by the Ukrainian right wing to frame the leader - removed him because he fled the country. Nazis are slaughtering people, we'll call it democracy. Bing AI now? Who programs that? Might as well just stick with wikipedia.

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      • Originally posted by Berzerker View Post
        hey Bing, would slaughtering protesters to drive a leader from office qualify as a coup?
        I .
        Ok here's what I get...

        Hello, this is Bing. I can help you with your question. According to the dictionary results, a coup is a sudden, violent, and unlawful seizure of power from a government¹²³. Therefore, slaughtering protesters to drive a leader from office may qualify as a coup, depending on the context and the outcome of the action. For example, if the protesters are supporting a legitimate and democratic government, and the slaughter is carried out by a group of people who want to overthrow or replace that government by force, then that would be a coup. However, if the protesters are opposing an illegitimate and authoritarian government, and the slaughter is carried out by the government itself or its allies to suppress or intimidate the opposition, then that would not be a coup. Instead, that would be a violation of human rights and a crime against humanity.

        Source: Conversation with Bing, 9/11/2023
        (1) . https://bing.com/search?q=definition+of+coup.
        (2) Coup Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/coup.
        (3) COUP | English meaning - Cambridge Dictionary. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...y/english/coup.
        (4) Coup definition and meaning | Collins English Dictionary. https://www.collinsdictionary.com/di...y/english/coup.
        (5) Coup - definition of coup by The Free Dictionary. https://www.thefreedictionary.com/coup.
        (6) undefined. http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/.​

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        • Does anybody remember how shrill and desperate Kid used to sound when he kept claiming Trump actually won the election? Berz is starting to sound pretty similar.
          “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

          ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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          • Originally posted by Berzerker View Post
            "Yanukovych fled the country on February 22, 2014 after losing the support of his own party and security forces."

            I think he fled the evening of the 21st the day after he was framed for the massacre. That was the coup. You keep arguing it wasn't a coup because parliament - in the immediate aftermath of a massacre by the Ukrainian right wing to frame the leader - removed him because he fled the country. Nazis are slaughtering people, we'll call it democracy. Bing AI now? Who programs that? Might as well just stick with wikipedia.
            Oh dear, Berz is now selectively arguing with a chatbot.
            One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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            • Actually, that's probably more sane that what many of us do.
              One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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              • Originally posted by Berzerker View Post
                I dont think 'America' knows what happened but I do blame Biden... and Trump and Obama and Bush and Clinton and Bush and Reagan and Carter, Ford, Nixon, LBJ, all war criminals.
                Nice of you to blame everybody BUT the person who actually ordered the attack on another nation. And your "hero" Putin is one of the worst war criminals of all.
                He's not helping/saving anybody. His troops are killing them and raping them, destroying their towns and lives. But feel free to blame EVERYBODY else. I guess you saw that in an online video.

                Keep on Civin'
                RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                • pchang
                  pchang commented
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                  More like he saw someone else claim that on an online video. It's amazing what secondhand hearsay Berz accepts as "proof" nowadays.
                  Last edited by pchang; September 12, 2023, 22:21.

              • I worked The Chicks concert last night in Winnipeg, Canada.During one of their songs I (along with over 10,000 other people) clearly saw Donald J Trump, shirtless, riding a pink unicorn with Putin (also topless)!!! We all saw this, for over a minute.
                The reason I'm posting in this thread is this proves, absolutely, that Trump and Putin are working (very) closely together (and, Trump is a big, fat bottom). All genocidal actions by Putin are backed by Trump - and I saw them as did over 10,000 others!
                Further, this is exactly the type of unbiased eye-witness reporting Berz basis his facts on.
                There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.

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                • BeBMan
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                  Trump is surely jealous now that Kim has other friends...

              • Kim is meeting Putin. Wisely choose the train after Prigozhin's plane made the big push south.

                Of course Kim is always taking the train. But then Prigozhin didn't, and see who's still breathing
                Blah

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                • Originally posted by BeBMan View Post
                  Kim is meeting Putin. Wisely choose the train after Prigozhin's plane made the big push south.

                  Of course Kim is always taking the train. But then Prigozhin didn't, and see who's still breathing
                  Kim does have a jet he uses, it's his father that was afraid of flying.

                  He doesn't go by plane also because he's afraid that Russia will confiscate it for spares:
                  On 12 September, a Ural Airlines Airbus A320 (registered RA-73805) operated domestic flight U61383 from Sochi to Omsk, Russia. During the flight, the
                  Indifference is Bliss

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                  • Originally posted by N35t0r View Post

                    Kim does have a jet he uses, it's his father that was afraid of flying.
                    I have never heard of Kim flying other than to meet the Donald. I think he fears being shot down...and probably by his own people.
                    "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                    • Reporter asks WH' Matt Miller if and how much funding we gave to research coronaviruses

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                      • PLATO
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                        Is this the right thread for that? Or are you saying that Coronavirus was part of the evil plan to oppress the poor Russians?

                      • Berzerker
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                        Ukraine is one of the places housing our biolabs



                    • 51-40 Slovaks blame Ukraine and the west for the war

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                      • They are just buying into the same propaganda you are.
                        Put the blame where it belongs... with Putin, the guy that actually invaded simply to expand the Russian empire.
                        Because we sure as hell can see it wasn't for the people... you know, the ones he is killing and raping.
                        Keep on Civin'
                        RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                        • Berzerker
                          Berzerker commented
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                          Slovakia was a very strong supporter of Ukraine, not so much now

                        • Ming
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                          So... it doesn't change the fact that PUTIN INVADED another country. And then went on to kill and rape the people he claimed he was defending... FACT
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