Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[The Mad Monk]

Wrong thread!

[giblets]

He was president when the initial invasion happened. He would have surrendered then.

[Uncle Sparky]

I believe Trump signed executive orders ending the war in Ukraine, the Israeli defensive action in the Middle East, and annexing Canada. All (white) fascists in American jails have been pardoned. All non-whites, regardless of citizenship, are to be rounded up and deported (not to Canada, since it is now an American state).
Why doesn't the libtard press cover this???.

[BeBMan]

And now to something completely different:

https://meduza.io/en/news/2025/01/22/syrian-authorities-terminate-agreement-with-russian-company-to-manage-tartus-port-site-of-russian-military-base

[BeBMan]

But Biden mind-controlled Putin into aggression. Now that Biden's gone, Putin doesn't know what to do at all!

[N35t0r]

Except it did motivate them to start spending more on defense, not enough, but at least more. The Ukraine war gave them the final push they needed to finally get their act together. That is a good thing as I suspect there really will be a Russian Twilight war as Peter Zeihan called it.

lol, no he didn't. Russian aggression did.

[Ming]

Gee... I guess Trump didn't keep his promise of ending the war. But then again, just another one of his lies

[Dinner]

Except it did motivate them to start spending more on defense, not enough, but at least more. The Ukraine war gave them the final push they needed to finally get their act together. That is a good thing as I suspect there really will be a Russian Twilight war as Peter Zeihan called it.

[The Mad Monk]

Trump just wanted to make sure crappy leaders like Merkel knew how unhappy he was with them not properly funding their militaries. Making threats is part of that because he is a big sissybaby who throws a tantrum when he doesn't get what he wants.

[Dinner]

Trump just wanted to make sure crappy leaders like Merkel knew how unhappy he was with them not properly funding their militaries. Making threats is part of that because that is what is needed to get them to change their bad policies.

[Dauphin]

ON the US view of Europe. I don't know, but maybe flip it around. If Europe went all in with China, politically (in the application or soft power), economically (sanctions, or trade agreements) or militarily (think NATO but replace US with China), would the US be concerned?

The US didn't support Western Europe after WW2 out of altruism, it was to stop the reds and set up secure democratic countries. Today, that's note really a concern. Today it's more about power multiplying. If the US wants to wield power, it can do it alone, sure, but won't it wield more power if it has allies that will follow it's lead. And of course, it can choose anywhere strategically important to do, but Europe is probably the best bang of buck - low cost due to it having culturally not dissimilar, economically comparable and militarily advanced countries in that region?

Trump complains that NATO countries are free-loading off the US. Even if that were true, I don't think the US would reduce their military spending if they(the U.S) dropped out of NATO. I also don't think their spending would go down if the free-loaders increased spending to 40% of GDP. The rhetoric probably just a way to force NATO countries to increase spending, which in his mind means having to buy weapons from the US. I'm sure he wouldn't be happy if countries just say they'll double the soldiers salaries, benefits and pensions and say they've met their commitments of increased spending.

Random tangent, not sure what point I was making. Mainly that - would your rather be with Europe at your side, or have it crossing the divide and lining up with the rest against you?

[Geronimo]

https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/zelenskyy-doubts-europe-s-role-in-ukraine-1737471590.html

From Zelensky's speech at Davos: ""Does anyone in the US worry that Europe might abandon them someday, might stop being their ally? The answer is no. Washington does not believe Europe can bring them something that is really substantial," I hope someone here can help refute this painful claim.

[BeBMan]

So, this time tomorrow, peace? Right?

Trump said it as part of the campaign, so I fully expect it to be true.

He also said Putin is destroying Russia. Not sure if Vlad sees it as some kind of campaign promise tho

[Ming]

Yep... Trump is running out of time on his (as usual) big lie.
But what do you expect... it is Trump.

[Geronimo]

So, this time tomorrow, peace? Right?

Trump said it as part of the campaign, so I fully expect it to be true.

I hope he tries to let that quietly go. Anything he could do to force a "resolution" on anything like that time frame will surely be a potential fustercluck at best.