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  • BeBMan
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    Meanwhile Putin has come up with his most promising plan for victory:



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  • N35t0r
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    Originally posted by Geronimo View Post

    Don't you suspect that a large majority of Russians believe that Russia faces an existential war against "the collective West"? I think Russia's war economy, especially at 37% of expenditures is not necessarily more unsustainable than Ukraine's 60%. It will be interesting to see how Russia handles Saudi Arabia moving to regain market share, however, if they move to do so this December as they announced a few weeks ago.
    No? Given that there are precisely zero "collective West" troops currently occupying parts of Russia. There might be some to a lot of very bellicose Russians, but it's a quite different scenario from a real existential war. If Putin thought that Russians really believed that, would he be doing everything possible to avoid any further mobilization waves, or otherwise inconvenience the core Russian people living around Moscow and St Petersburg.

    The same way that the US, even at the height of the cold war, couldn't maintain nearly as high a military budget as during WW2, even if the actual threat to the US was greater after the Soviets got nukes.

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  • BeBMan
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    Originally posted by Geronimo View Post

    Don't you suspect that a large majority of Russians believe that Russia faces an existential war against "the collective West"?.
    Of course they do, or at least they don't openly oppose, which is all no wonder given the daily barrages of Kremlin propaganda, Moscow's control over Russian media, and the brutal oppression of dissent on top.

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  • Geronimo
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    Originally posted by N35t0r View Post

    Is Russia receiving several billions in foreign aid each year, and facing an existential war against a foreign invader?
    Don't you suspect that a large majority of Russians believe that Russia faces an existential war against "the collective West"? I think Russia's war economy, especially at 37% of expenditures is not necessarily more unsustainable than Ukraine's 60%. It will be interesting to see how Russia handles Saudi Arabia moving to regain market share, however, if they move to do so this December as they announced a few weeks ago.

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  • N35t0r
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    Originally posted by Geronimo View Post

    Ukraine allocates more than 60% of its budget for defence. Maybe Russia can manage 37%?
    Is Russia receiving several billions in foreign aid each year, and facing an existential war against a foreign invader?

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  • BeBMan
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    I'm sure Russia can go far beyond 100%

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  • Geronimo
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    Originally posted by Dinner View Post
    WRT Russia the current state government has allocated 37.8% of it budget for military expenditures. No, Russia cannot keep this up and it is doomed to fail. It's while society will fall apart. Remember, that the West was amazed because Poland decided, based upon Russia aggression, that it needed to spend 4% of its budget upon its military. Russia is spending 37.8% and it can't maintain it

    https://youtu.be/_MCfe0YdARE?si=fyMJSsmHqOh6XZQl
    Ukraine allocates more than 60% of its budget for defence. Maybe Russia can manage 37%?

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  • Dinner
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    WRT Russia the current state government has allocated 37.8% of it budget for military expenditures. No, Russia cannot keep this up and it is doomed to fail. It's while society will fall apart. Remember, that the West was amazed because Poland decided, based upon Russia aggression, that it needed to spend 4% of its budget upon its military. Russia is spending 37.8% and it can't maintain it

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  • Dinner
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    American A-10 Warthog aircraft destroy an entire convoy of Iranian backed forces moving from Iraq to Syria. They used the main gun to just hose the entire Shiia armored column. They ****ed around and found out. 'Merica, **** yeah.

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  • Dinner
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    In a plot twist, Assad has supposedly asked Israel to save his regime.

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  • Dinner
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    In a nutshell, anti-Assad forces have captured Aleppo and its surrounding airport. There may be three reasons why this happened:1. Russia simply can’t spend ...

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  • Dinner
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    Islamists are also kidnapping Kurdish and Christian girls to make them sex slaves. Much like ISIS did with religious minorities in Iraq a few years back

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  • Dinner
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    Well, Assad's personal palace has been captured by the Syrian rebels (mostly Islamists). Kudrs are fighting both the Assad forces and the Islamist forces. Assad's family seems to have also fled to Russia though Syria. State membia claims he is now on Syria. Russia has abandoned Syria as it's forces have been stripped to the bone to reinforce Russian forces in Ukraine; they have mostly retreated to Russia's main base in Latokia. It remains unclear if rebel forces will storm the Russian naval base but they clearly do not like Russia as Russians have air forces for years.

    The Islamists also seem to be massacring Christians in Syria. The whole thing is a damn mess. No word about how Assad's brother's coup is going but it doesn't seem to be very successful. Russia has tried weak attacks against the Islamists but several have been captured by the Turkish backed rebels. It is extreme chaos in Syria and it seems likely the dictator will be overthrown.

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  • The Mad Monk
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    Well. He only ever wanted to be a dentist anyway.

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  • Dinner
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    In related news Syrian rebel forces seem to be showing Putin & Assad how to conduct a real three day special military operation. Russian forces are in full retreat fleeing back to the Latokia Naval base while Assad's forces are simply running away from every where. Worse, Assad's brother seems to be leading a coup in Damascus. Assad himself hasn't been seen for half a week and is believed to be hiding in Moscow.

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