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  • Graduate of the Dick Cheney school of Iraqi WMD Victoria Nuland just got a promotion taking the place of Wendy Sherman as # 2 at the State Dept behind Tony Blinken

    We're still rewarding the ghouls who lied us into that war... but I believe her now

    a million dead here, a million dead there

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    • Originally posted by Berzerker View Post
      https://youtu.be/c-P_sn_jivs

      Graduate of the Dick Cheney school of Iraqi WMD Victoria Nuland just got a promotion taking the place of Wendy Sherman as # 2 at the State Dept behind Tony Blinken

      We're still rewarding the ghouls who lied us into that war... but I believe her now

      a million dead here, a million dead there
      Nuland took part in administrations that cost 2 million (minimum) lives lost? do the path for us please.

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      • pchang
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        Remember, we couldn’t get Pakistan to hand over Bin Laden, but we could get them to replace their Prime Minister.

      • Berzerker
        Berzerker commented
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        Somebody handed him over, it was Pakistanis who told us where to find him

    • yeah nuland is a piece of sh!t
      everyone in europe knows it

      should have a warrant for her arrest like kissimnger

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      • Originally posted by Bereta_Eder View Post
        yeah nuland is a piece of sh!t
        everyone in europe knows it

        should have a warrant for her arrest like kissimnger
        it doesn't require taking *any* lives, let alone 2 million, to establish credentials as a POS. I'm sure Nuland qualifies for that low bar. I question that she was able to bear responsibility for 2 million deaths. what deaths were these?

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        • I didn't say she caused 2 millkion deaths

          just that she stired sh!t up and supported nazis

          that she has no morality and is hitler's darling

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          • I was just looking at the pictures of Nuland on Wiki and I think she looks better with longer hair, Not much of an improvement but every little bit helps.
            "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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            • don't hair stand up in the electric chair?

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              • she wasn't bad looking 20 years ago, now she reminds me of Nurse Ratchet

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                • she tuns men to homosexuality, it's a disgrace

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                  • WTF do her looks matter? Feels like casual misogyny being expressed here.
                    One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                    • Dauphin
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                      I wanted to fact check myself.

                      Despite attempts to increase gender parity in politics, global efforts have struggled to ensure equal female representation. This is likely tied to implicit gender biases against women in authority. In this work, we present a comprehensive study of gender biases that appear in online political discussion. To this end, we collect 10 million comments on Reddit in conversations about male and female politicians, which enables an exhaustive study of automatic gender bias detection. We address not only misogynistic language, but also other manifestations of bias, like benevolent sexism in the form of seemingly positive sentiment and dominance attributed to female politicians, or differences in descriptor attribution. Finally, we conduct a multi-faceted study of gender bias towards politicians investigating both linguistic and extra-linguistic cues. We assess 5 different types of gender bias, evaluating coverage, combinatorial, nominal, sentimental and lexical biases extant in social media language and discourse. Overall, we find that, contrary to previous research, coverage and sentiment biases suggest equal public interest in female politicians. Rather than overt hostile or benevolent sexism, the results of the nominal and lexical analyses suggest this interest is not as professional or respectful as that expressed about male politicians. Female politicians are often named by their first names and are described in relation to their body, clothing, or family; this is a treatment that is not similarly extended to men. On the now banned far-right subreddits, this disparity is greatest, though differences in gender biases still appear in the right and left-leaning subreddits. We release the curated dataset to the public for future studies.


                      "Overall, we find that, contrary to previous research, coverage and sentiment biases suggest equal public interest in female politicians. Rather than overt hostile or benevolent sexism, the results of the nominal and lexical analyses suggest this interest is not as professional or respectful as that expressed about male politicians. Female politicians are often named by their first names and are described in relation to their body, clothing, or family; this is a treatment that is not similarly extended to men"

                    • PLATO
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                      Thanks Dauphin. That was an insightful article. It certainly makes me question if I have some subconscious misogyny going on here. I'd like to think not, but the research you provided looks good. Something to work on I guess...

                    • Berzerker
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                      wtf ru talkin bout Willis?

                  • Originally posted by Geronimo View Post

                    Nuland took part in administrations that cost 2 million (minimum) lives lost? do the path for us please.
                    at least 2 million... Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, Libya, Syria, Somalia, Ethiopia, Ukraine, and now she's in Niger.

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                    • Originally posted by Berzerker View Post

                      at least 2 million... Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, Libya, Syria, Somalia, Ethiopia, Ukraine, and now she's in Niger.
                      Here's lazy bing prompt estimates of *total casualties on all sides* for all of those conflicts:


                      | War | Highest estimate | Most commonly cited estimate | Lowest estimate |
                      | --- | --- | --- | --- |
                      | Afghanistan | 241,000¹ | 171,000² | 110,000³ |
                      | Iraq | 1,033,000⁴ | 461,000 | 151,000 |
                      | Yemen | 233,000 | 112,000 | 56,000 |
                      | Libya | 25,000 | 10,000 | 4,700 |
                      | Syria | 606,000 | 388,000 | 250,000 |
                      | Somalia | 500,000 | 300,000 | 100,000 |
                      | Ethiopia | 52,800 | 52,800 | 52,800 |
                      | Ukraine | 13,200 | 13,200 | 13,200 |
                      | **Total** | **2.7 million** | **1.5 million** | **0.7 million**

                      Source: Conversation with Bing, 8/15/2023
                      (1) Post-9/11 wars have contributed to some 4.5 million deaths, report .... https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...hanistan-iraq/.
                      (2) Human Costs of U.S. Post-9/11 Wars: Direct War Deaths in Major War .... https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/...1/WarDeathToll.
                      (3) How Death Outlives War - Watson Institute for International and Public .... https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/...t%20Deaths.pdf.
                      (4) Latest Figures | Costs of War. https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/figures.

                      How the hell can the US, let alone Nuland be responsible for 2/3 of the high estimate? 🙄​
                      Last edited by Geronimo; August 15, 2023, 23:18.

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                      • Crap huh... Actually the number I saw for the US death toll was ~4 1/2 million, but I dont know when they started counting or how indirectly our hands are on the instruments of death.

                        Madeleine Albright said a 1/2 million dead Iraqi children were worth the sanctions and that was before we invaded again. We could ask Victoria about that, she was already killing people for the neocon ideology​

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                        • Originally posted by Berzerker View Post
                          Crap huh... Actually the number I saw for the US death toll was ~4 1/2 million, but I dont know when they started counting or how indirectly our hands are on the instruments of death.

                          Madeleine Albright said a 1/2 million dead Iraqi children were worth the sanctions and that was before we invaded again. We could ask Victoria about that, she was already killing people for the neocon ideology​
                          Let's see that number at least. Then we can discuss why you think it's credible.

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                          • Originally posted by Geronimo View Post

                            Here's lazy bing prompt estimates of *total casualties on all sides* for all of those conflicts:


                            | War | Highest estimate | Most commonly cited estimate | Lowest estimate |
                            | --- | --- | --- | --- |
                            | Afghanistan | 241,000¹ | 171,000² | 110,000³ |
                            | Iraq | 1,033,000⁴ | 461,000 | 151,000 |
                            | Yemen | 233,000 | 112,000 | 56,000 |
                            | Libya | 25,000 | 10,000 | 4,700 |
                            | Syria | 606,000 | 388,000 | 250,000 |
                            | Somalia | 500,000 | 300,000 | 100,000 |
                            | Ethiopia | 52,800 | 52,800 | 52,800 |
                            | Ukraine | 13,200 | 13,200 | 13,200 |
                            | **Total** | **2.7 million** | **1.5 million** | **0.7 million**

                            Source: Conversation with Bing, 8/15/2023
                            (1) Post-9/11 wars have contributed to some 4.5 million deaths, report .... https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...hanistan-iraq/.
                            (2) Human Costs of U.S. Post-9/11 Wars: Direct War Deaths in Major War .... https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/...1/WarDeathToll.
                            (3) How Death Outlives War - Watson Institute for International and Public .... https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/...t%20Deaths.pdf.
                            (4) Latest Figures | Costs of War. https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/figures.

                            How the hell can the US, let alone Nuland be responsible for 2/3 of the high estimate? 🙄​
                            3/3rds... Those are our wars and the numbers dont include the 80s when we armed 'freedom fighters' and Islamic terrorists and used Iraq as a proxy vs Iran and spent the 90s killing Iraqis et al with sanctions and bombs. We could go back further, Vietnam and the Cambodian genocide, but that preceded Victoria's reign of terror.

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