Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[BeBMan]

Interesting video

Russia has already defeated any possible Ukrainian offensive:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/05/russia-claims-to-have-fought-off-major-ukrainian-offensive-in-donetsk

Also in the article:

Ukraine’s defence minister, Oleksiy Reznikov, posted a message on Twitter on Sunday, quoting from the Depeche Mode song Enjoy the Silence. “Words are very unnecessary They can only do harm,” the tweet said.

Probably doesn't want to admit that Ukraine will collapse in 3 days now.

[Dauphin]

That could so easily be an advert for the next Call of Duty: Modern Warfare.

[BlackCat]

Interesting video

[Dinner]

Interesting word replacement happening there.

[Dinner]

Now that Ukraine has received F16s, do you think they will ask for bunker buster bombs?

JM

They haven't received the jets yet. I am sure the next stuff will be munitions for the jets but it doesn't seem Russia will do much. There are good reasons for that.

https://youtu.be/fWKGYnO0Jf4

[EPW]

The Pentagon will likely filibuster the transfer of bunkerbusters unless no robuster solution can be found.

[Geronimo]

Now that Ukraine has received F16s, do you think they will ask for bunker buster bombs?

JM

Supposedly the kinzhals are all designed as bunker busters so I doubt it would be seen as any kind of "escalation"

[Jon Miller]

Now that Ukraine has received F16s, do you think they will ask for bunker buster bombs?

JM

[Geronimo]

Ok, originally the thread topic was broader than that.

[Dinner]

I believe those were artillery strikes. Again, we are talking missiles here.

[Geronimo]

I was speaking specifically about their missile systems. Their kill chain process is so long and complicated that they cannot hit movable targets in a timely fashion. Thus why Russia is forced to target buildings which do not move. This has meant they have primarily deliberately targeted civilian buildings and infrastructure. Both Bellingcat and Perun have covered this topic in the past.

They are documented to have also blown up a great many trucks disguised as HIMARs with wooden facades. I think those were semi mobile.

[Dinner]

I was speaking specifically about their missile systems. Their kill chain process is so long and complicated that they cannot hit movable targets in a timely fashion. Thus why Russia is forced to target buildings which do not move. This has meant they have primarily deliberately targeted civilian buildings and infrastructure. Both Bellingcat and Perun have covered this topic in the past.

[Geronimo]

The worse thing is the Russians seem unable to hit anything other than civilian targets which cannot move.

https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/cemetery-ukrainian-soldiers-killed-world-war-ii-military-st-galician-division-who-died-battle-brody-lviv-oblast-184062570.jpg

Thousands of corroborated scenes like this suggest otherwise.

[Dinner]

Blah blah blah... you are bombing cities and civilian targets. That is bad no matter WHO does it.
It's bad when we have done it... and when others do it. And BAD WHEN YOU DO IT

And you are still doing it because your army kind of sucks at everything else.

The worse thing is the Russians seem unable to hit anything other than civilian targets which cannot move.

[Ming]

How many people died before "the military action". How many have died since. And, more Russians have died since then.
I guess Mexico can attack Texas since they used to own it in the past and their are a lot of Mexicans living in Texas.