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  • Originally posted by Berzerker View Post

    Evacuating children from an approaching attack is not a war crime, I dont see the humanity of leaving them there to die or face conscription. Children in cages, really?
    You realize they didn't just evacuate them, right? Please telle you actually read a bit about the International Criminal Court.
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    • Originally posted by Dinner View Post

      You realize they didn't just evacuate them, right? Please telle you actually read a bit about the International Criminal Court.
      The article said the ICC and Ukraine hadn't released the details. From what I read kids were set up in relatively stable situations away from the war. Some parents wanted to get their kids to safety, some are left tracking down their kids. If thats a war crime are you saying these kids should have been left at the school? Ukraine is recruiting boys.

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      • Originally posted by Berzerker View Post

        Removing kids from battlefields is humanitarian
        Killing them and their families by bombing cities is not.
        Keep on Civin'
        RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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        • The only ones bombing hospitals, schools, refugee centers and civilian buildings pretty much consistently are the Russians.
          Indifference is Bliss

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          • Th easiest way for Russian troops to protect Ukrainian children is to withdraw Russian troops from Ukraine...and leave the kids behind.
            "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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            • Originally posted by PLATO View Post
              Th easiest way for Russian troops to protect Ukrainian children is to withdraw Russian troops from Ukraine...and leave the kids behind.
              Not only this ... it would also protect the lives of countless Russian soldiers (especially those who were conscripted and are sent to the front with barely any training)
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              • Originally posted by Ming View Post
                And Russia continues to bomb/missile Ukrainian cities... they are real humanitarians.
                We are nowhere near to our American "teachers" or their nazi Ukranian puppet.

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                • -Jrabbit
                  -Jrabbit commented
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                  So you admit to your war crimes.

              • Blah blah blah... you are bombing cities and civilian targets. That is bad no matter WHO does it.
                It's bad when we have done it... and when others do it. And BAD WHEN YOU DO IT

                And you are still doing it because your army kind of sucks at everything else.
                Keep on Civin'
                RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                • Originally posted by Serb View Post

                  We are nowhere near to our American "teachers" or their nazi Ukranian puppet.
                  What city in Iraq was as thoroughly destroyed as Mariupol? What city did Ukraine destroy? They had 8 years to mess up Luhansk or Donetsk as badly as Russia has messed up every city it occupies and yet somehow all the Ukrainians managed to destroy was an airport outside Luhansk.

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                  • Originally posted by Geronimo View Post

                    What city in Iraq was as thoroughly destroyed as Mariupol?
                    Fallujah
                    Last edited by PLATO; June 2, 2023, 19:01.
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                    • Originally posted by PLATO View Post

                      Fallujah
                      Not according the sources I found. Fallujah was 30-60% destroyed. Mariupol was 90% destroyed.

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                      • PLATO
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                        Fair enough. I stand corrected. My ex-sister in law's husband fought in Fallujah and he referred to it as "totaled". I can see 60% looking like "totaled". Mariupol was a very different situation though. Fallujah was almost exclusively combatants and Mariupol was filled with civilians. Makes it much worse even if both were at 90%.

                    • Originally posted by Ming View Post

                      Killing them and their families by bombing cities is not.
                      So why accuse Russia of a war crime for evacuating children? We've supported bombing the Donbas for over 8 years.

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                      • Originally posted by N35t0r View Post
                        The only ones bombing hospitals, schools, refugee centers and civilian buildings pretty much consistently are the Russians.
                        Did the Voice of Ukraine tell you that? Amnesty Int'l said Ukrainian military units were using civilian shields, they'd move weapons into civilian infrastructure, launch and move out before Russians returned fire.

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                        • Originally posted by Berzerker View Post

                          So why accuse Russia of a war crime for evacuating children? We've supported bombing the Donbas for over 8 years.
                          If it was "bombed" for 8 years why have the cities and towns there taken far more than 8 times as much damage in the last year?

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                          • Originally posted by Berzerker View Post

                            So why accuse Russia of a war crime for evacuating children? We've supported bombing the Donbas for over 8 years.
                            Maybe because the children actually wasn't in any danger ? It's quite true that Ukraine has fought a war in Donbas against russians, but they haven't attacked ukrainians no matter what language they spoke.
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