President Zelensky is a hero

[Berzerker]

https://youtu.be/mffCvWZujWA

10-14 minutes in he cites a Ukrainian professor from U of Ottawa - Ivan Katchanovski - who studied the Maidan massacre to locate sniper positions

[BeBMan]

Well if some folks we can't verify say stuff on youtube we can't verify it's certainly well established

[Berzerker]

I trust Aaron Mate

[BeBMan]

Good for you. Others may prefer something more substantial.

[Berzerker]

there's always MSNBC

[BeBMan]

Just to sort this: Neonazis exist in various countries, in Ukraine, in Europe, the US, and btw even in Russia. But nobody - except Vlad - seem to think you need to start wars all over the place to denazify all those countries. In fact if you look into election results in lots of those countries they are usually a tiny minority.

Can you demonstrate to us how much influence those Ukrainian neonazis de facto have? Right now I read news of the Russian missile strike vs the TV station (or so) in Kyiv next to the holocaust memorial for the Babi Yar massacres of 1941. So much for de-nazification.

[Uncle Sparky]

Babi Yar memorial has been targeted and blown up by Russia,,, obvious military target.

[Dinner]

If you watched the videos it was pretty obvious Russians were targeting the tv broadcast tower at the top of the hill. Russian military just has mostly dumb munitions and so hit tons of stuff near their targets. Not that a civilian tv antenna was ever a legit target.

[Berzerker]

Zelensky gave Biden a gift after he became prez, he shut down 3 media outlets

[Wezil]

Just to sort this: Neonazis exist in various countries, in Ukraine, in Europe, the US, and btw even in Russia. .

Indeed. Berz should do some "research" on far right ties to the US Republican party. A former President even referred to them as "very fine people".

[Broken_Erika]

His "Research" consists of watching Jimmy Dore.

[Dinner]

Why do you lie so much, Wezil? The nonsense claim about Trump was debunked years ago yet fools like you still repeat that tired old lie. Trump specifically said "I am not talking about white supremacists" yet Democrats edit that part out and low information zealots like you eat it up. As a Canadian why are so so emotionally invested in partisan propaganda?

[Wezil]

Dinner - Go answer your 1st bogus accusation in the other thread. I'm not dealing with your new "propaganda" accusation till you clear that up. Coward.

[Broken_Erika]

Russian primary school children detained for anti-war protest


When I saw reports and photographs on Tuesday suggesting that primary school children had been arrested by police in Moscow for laying flowers at the Ukrainian embassy and holding signs saying “No to war” I refused to believe it was real.

But now it has been confirmed by the Nobel prize-winning newspaper Novaya Gazeta. In an update the newspaper says the children have since been released.

The images show the children with officers behind metal bars, perhaps in a police vehicle, and then in a police station, holding their flowers and placards.

The Kremlin appears to be taking increasingly draconian measures to try to keep a grip on its war narrative.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-60582327

[Dinner]

It looks like Moldova will be next if the maps Belarus is dictator showed on state tv are to be believed. Belarus is also sending forces to help the siege of Kiev.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/belarus-president-lukashenko-map-invasion-moldova

The west did way to little way to late to help Ukraine. We are currently doing the same to Taiwan, Moldova and Georgia.

[Berzerker]

Indeed. Berz should do some "research" on far right ties to the US Republican party. A former President even referred to them as "very fine people".

Democrats were complaining about neo-Nazis and Trump while they spent years training and funding Nazis to kill eastern Ukrainians. Trump didn't say Nazis were fine people, he condemned them and the KKK at that press conference.

[Wezil]

I've gone back and looked at the full transcript and I will agree that he did earlier in the presser try to make a distinction but all in all it was the usual Trump word salad. Read into it what you prefer I guess. I saw/read it as Trump trying to have it both ways.

The US funding was for Ukraine. Do you have evidence the funding went straight to Azov?

[Wezil]

On the larger point -

Republicans to field more than 100 far-right candidates this year

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/02/republicans-100-far-right-candidates-2022

[Berzerker]

Just to sort this: Neonazis exist in various countries, in Ukraine, in Europe, the US, and btw even in Russia. But nobody - except Vlad - seem to think you need to start wars all over the place to denazify all those countries. In fact if you look into election results in lots of those countries they are usually a tiny minority.

Can you demonstrate to us how much influence those Ukrainian neonazis de facto have? Right now I read news of the Russian missile strike vs the TV station (or so) in Kyiv next to the holocaust memorial for the Babi Yar massacres of 1941. So much for de-nazification.

if you were in charge of Russia in 2014 and your neighbor Ukraine is overthrown in a coup and the coup backers are Nazis who start killing people protesting the coup and ethnic Russians along your common border what would you do? I wouldn't have waited 8 years. I couldn't look my fellow Russians in the eye as their kin are being murdered across the border. I think Putin went too far but he's obviously tired of hoping the Ukrainian govt would stop their war.

This is on Obama and Biden and to a lesser extent Trump, all 3 could have ended the war in east Ukraine. All 3 could have declared Ukraine neutral but instead they armed Nazis. And why should we be surprised, Obama was arming terrorists in Syria while gaslighting us with bs about 'moderate rebels'.

this is about gas

[Proteus_MST]

Here another hero ... a russian one, however:
https://twitter.com/StewartMcDonald/...93942687698962

[ZEE]

if you were in charge of Russia in 2014 and your neighbor Ukraine is overthrown in a coup and the coup backers are Nazis who start killing people protesting the coup and ethnic Russians along your common border what would you do? I wouldn't have waited 8 years. I couldn't look my fellow Russians in the eye as their kin are being murdered across the border. I think Putin went too far but he's obviously tired of hoping the Ukrainian govt would stop their war.

This is on Obama and Biden and to a lesser extent Trump, all 3 could have ended the war in east Ukraine. All 3 could have declared Ukraine neutral but instead they armed Nazis. And why should we be surprised, Obama was arming terrorists in Syria while gaslighting us with bs about 'moderate rebels'.

this is about gas

Liberals sicken me in ways I can scarce describe, but the GOP needs to stop blaming them for everything. THEY ARE LIBERALS AND ACT LIKE LIBERALS! Forget them and go back to your roots...

Put on back on the Neo-con, hawkish, carpet-bombing, World War 3 hats! Have your base stop worrying about Obama and use this crisis to raise defense spending and nuke production. Don't let Trump's arrogance blind you to also become fat and arrogant and laugh at the small folk, let the Liberals do that.

IT'S TIME FOR WAR! Thank you.

[ZEE]

ZEE REMINDING THESE HAWKS HOW TO FLY

[Uncle Sparky]

Well Berzerker, you, Aaron Mate and Putin are in good company. Only four nations other than Russia voted not to condemn the Russia invasion... you stand with Kim Jong-Un, Bashar al-Assad, Asaias Afwerki (Eritrea), and Lukashenko (Belarus' Putin).

Cuba abstained. Kazakhstan, where Russian troops helped put down a popular uprising last month, abstained. China abstained.

You are in rare company. Only four of the worlds worst dictators didn't fall for the Jewish lead Nazi government. You get dancing bananas.