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    "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
    "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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    • Not even many Americans who follow international news know the following, for example:

      § That the snipers who killed scores of protestors and policemen on Kiev’s Maidan Square in February 2014, thereby triggering a “democratic revolution” that overthrew the elected president, Viktor Yanukovych, and brought to power a virulent anti-Russian, pro-American regime—it was neither democratic nor a revolution, but a violent coup unfolding in the streets with high-level support—were sent not by Yanukovych, as is stillwidely reported, but insteadalmost certainly by the neofascist organization Right Sector and its co-conspirators.

      § That the pogrom-like burning to death of ethnic Russians and others in Odessa shortly later in 2014 reawakened memories of Nazi extermination squads in Ukraine during World War II has been all but deleted from the American mainstream narrative even though it remains a painful and revelatory experience for many Ukrainians.

      § That the Azov Battalion of some 3,000 well-armed fighters, which has played a major combat role in the Ukrainian civil war and now is an official component of Kiev’s armed forces, is avowedly “partially” pro-Nazi, as evidenced by its regalia, slogans, and programmatic statements, and well-documented as such by several international monitoring organizations. Congressional legislation recently banned Azov from receiving any US military aid, but it is likely to obtain some of the new weapons recently sent to Kiev by the Trump Administration due to the country’s rampant network of corruption and black markets.

      § That stormtroop-like assaults on gays, Jews, elderly ethnic Russians, and other “impure” citizens are widespread throughout Kiev-ruled Ukraine, along with torchlight marches reminiscent of those that eventually inflamed Germany in the late 1920s and 1930s. And that the police and official legal authorities do virtually nothing to prevent these neofascist acts or to prosecute them. On the contrary, Kiev has officially encouraged them by systematically rehabilitating and even memorializing Ukrainian collaborators with Nazi German extermination pogroms and their leaders during World War II, renaming streets in their honor, building monuments to them, rewriting history to glorify them, and more.

      § Or that Israel’s official annual report on anti-Semitism around the world in 2017 concluded that such incidents had doubled in Ukraine and the number “surpassed the tally for all the incidents reported throughout the entire region combined.” By the region, the report meant the total in all of Eastern Europe and all former territories of the Soviet Union.



      move along sir, no Nazis here

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      • oh the irony of Obama arming and training white supremacists while Democrats howl about Trump

        must have been Barack's white half

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        • it sometimes seems like the things dems complain about the most is what they do more than anyone else.

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          • And Israel supports the anti-Semitic Jewish fascist Ukrainian government.

            141 in favor; North Korea, Syria, Belarus, Eritrea vote with Russia; 35 abstain, including China, Iran, India, South Africa; Israel among 96 co-sponsors after keeping lower profile
            There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.

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            • Originally posted by Uncle Sparky View Post
              And Israel supports the anti-Semitic Jewish fascist Ukrainian government.
              crazy world we live in. it's more different every day.

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              • Originally posted by Berzerker View Post

                if you were in charge of Russia in 2014 and your neighbor Ukraine is overthrown in a coup and the coup backers are Nazis who start killing people protesting the coup and ethnic Russians along your common border what would you do? I wouldn't have waited 8 years. I couldn't look my fellow Russians in the eye as their kin are being murdered across the border.
                Yet somehow, you believe this story?

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                • Originally posted by Berzerker View Post

                  if you were in charge of Russia in 2014 and your neighbor Ukraine is overthrown in a coup and the coup backers are Nazis who start killing people protesting the coup and ethnic Russians along your common border what would you do? I wouldn't have waited 8 years. I couldn't look my fellow Russians in the eye as their kin are being murdered across the border. I think Putin went too far but he's obviously tired of hoping the Ukrainian govt would stop their war.

                  This is on Obama and Biden and to a lesser extent Trump, all 3 could have ended the war in east Ukraine. All 3 could have declared Ukraine neutral but instead they armed Nazis. And why should we be surprised, Obama was arming terrorists in Syria while gaslighting us with bs about 'moderate rebels'.

                  this is about gas
                  Thanks for relaying the Kremlin's POV to all of us.
                  Blah

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                  • Wezil
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                    If an American is concerned about a relative handful of Nazis in an army on the other side of the world but completely unconcerned about Nazis in the Republican Party then I suggest this isn't really about Nazis.

                • Originally posted by Uncle Sparky View Post
                  And Israel supports the anti-Semitic Jewish fascist Ukrainian government.
                  Sure, Obama made 141 countries to vote for him against Russia.

                  But otoh Russia got a whopping 5 votes (incl. their own), including votes from the great humanitarian regimes of Syria and North Korea.

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                  • From https://twitter.com/MFA_Ukraine Surely a gross exaggeration? But then then the US says the number killed is ~6000! There's no way Russia takes all of Ukraine at this point without using WMDs.

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                    • Yeah, I'd be sceptic on any numbers currently - Russian accounts seem way too low (ca. 500 losses of personnel admitted), but Ukrainian figures look so high that it's difficult to believe either. But then again Russian progress is underwhelming so far, which does suggest they do have probs.

                      *Mumbles something about truth as 1st casualty of war etc.



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                      • this twitter thread explains what might be happening with Russian vehicles.
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                        • Originally posted by Berzerker View Post

                          the reason I heard for the Ukrainian govt refusing to implement the Minsk deal is that would have given these eastern areas autonomy within Ukraine and that would have prevented membership in NATO
                          There is absolutely no reason they should have to implement the Minsk deal. It was negotiated literally at the muzzle of guns. That could also be why they didn't implement it.
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                          • Wezil
                            Wezil commented
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                            In the legal field contracts signed under "duress" are not enforceable.

                          • Berzerker
                            Berzerker commented
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                            eastern Ukrainians didn't attack Kiev, they opposed the coup and got attacked by Nazis.

                        • Originally posted by EPW View Post
                          https://twitter.com/TrentTelenko/sta...64245250002944
                          this twitter thread explains what might be happening with Russian vehicles.
                          Interesting read. I'm still puzzled that Russia over years made a considerable effort to modernize their military with all kinds of impressive weapon systems but looks like they forgot many of the basics. I mean poor maintenance is something I'd rather associate with parts of the German military of the last 2-3 decades due to the peace-dividend thinking.

                          No idea what the reason in Russia is, incompentence, corruption, whatever.
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                          • Looks like russian air forces are preparing for attack
                            With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                            Steven Weinberg

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