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[Dauphin]

Com’on. The FBI are Antifa. Of course they would claim that.

[Kidlicious]

Well, we all know QAnon, the Proud Boys and all Trump supporters are amazingly stupid, but who here, except maybe Kidiot & Dinner, new Antifa was so clever as to completely fool the FBI & CIA?

You're stupid enough to believe something is true because someone told you it is.

[Ming]

You're stupid enough to believe something is true because someone told you it is.

Gee... you believe everything Trump tells you or what is posted at some crazy alt right sites...
You don't even read the stories some times, you just believe and re-post the headlines...

So how is the big lie going... any proof yet...

[Kidlicious]

I've never claimed that something is true because Trump said it. You just made that up.

[Ming]

Ok then... do you believe his claim he won the election in a land slide?

[Kidlicious]

Yeah, just not because he said so.

[BeBMan]

Com’on. The FBI are Antifa. Of course they would claim that.

The Wray guy was appointed by Trump IIRC. But then Trump-appointed AG Barr, and Trump-appointed Supreme Court Judges also look suspiciously Antifa to me. Similar to the whole Covid thing.

[Ming]

Yeah, just not because he said so.

In other words, you will believe any of his lies with absolutely no proof to back yourself up. Got it.

[Kidlicious]

Nazi symbolism literally takes the stage at CPAC. Not even trying to hide it.



Look at the physical shape of the stage. This is not a coincidence. Beyond disgusting.

So the company that designed this stage is liberal and supported Biden. Sadly, JR will continue to be an idiot, instead of rethinking his life.

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Yashar Ali


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1. I know Design Foundry because they handle design for many events in DC for companies like MSNBC & Target. They oversaw the design for the Biden Cancer Summit in 2018. The owner, Annie, is very liberal and was so excited for Biden’s victory. Great work conspiracy theorists.
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Exclusive: Design Foundry, a Maryland-based design firm, has taken responsibility for the design of the CPAC stage that resembled a Nazi insignia. The firm says it ‘had no idea’ that the stage resembled a Nazi symbol https://forward.com/news/465136/desi...oversy/…
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2. Also worth noting that many of her employees are liberal So many of you decided to go after something without any reporting or knowledge about who was responsible for the design And before you ding her for working for CPAC, you try having an events business during a pandemic
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3. An event design company thats coming up with a stage design does nothing to help CPAC or elevate its status in any way. What it does do is keep people in the event business employed during a pandemic which has destroyed businesses and jobs.
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4. And none of you will admit you got it wrong or apologize because in your minds it means you’re caving into Trump. Now an event company, which is a liberal owned and run small business, is associated with a horrific allegation that is based on conspiracies and no evidence.
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5. Mike Rothschild, one of the foremost experts on QAnon and also one of their targets!
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Folks, I'm liberal Jew with the last name Rothschild who writes about conspiracies and extremism. If the CPAC stage were actually a Nazi rune, I'd be screaming about it. Instead, I'm debunking it. Because it's not.
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[-Jrabbit]

Unlike you, Kid, I'm capable of admitting when I'm wrong. Assuming your cut/paste tweetsicles are legit, mea culpa for my error.
And you of all people have ZERO latitude to criticize ANYONE for posting a conspiracy theory. (You'll notice the designer does, in fact, admit that the stage shape matches the Nazi symbol in question.) Oh, and a big F.U. for the constant personal attacks.

[Ming]

Typical Kid... Stop the personal insults, or find somewhere else to post.
Feel free to actually "discuss" things... but take your personal crap somewhere else.

[Kidlicious]

He's posting ridiculous conspiracy theories. You should be ashamed for defending that.

[Ben Kenobi]

I'm so old I remember when JR was sane.

Republican presidents drive up the deficit and often end in disaster. Democratic presidents generally have a high spending year or two fixing things and then drive down the deficit.

Where did I say it was a partisan problem? The fingerpointing is worthless. It doesn't matter who did it, the debt is the debt. People accuse me of being partisan but I'm very much on Rand Paul's side of this.

I agree that it is better to not drive up the deficit when there is no disaster. But take that up with Bush and Trump, not Obama or Clinton... or Biden (yet).

Biden's fiscal irreponsibility doesn't bode well for the future.

(I don't remember if there was a disaster at the end of the watch of the first Bush. I do know that the deficit decreased under both Clinton and Obama.)

Every administration has significantly increased the debt burden.

[Jon Miller]

Both Clinton and Carter actually decreased the debt burden.

https://www.macrotrends.net/1381/debt-to-gdp-ratio-historical-chart

It is obvious that in emergencies the debt burden will increase unless the country is already facing serious negative impacts due to the debt burden. Because of this, it is the responsibility of presidents in good times to reduce the debt burden. This has been done by Democratic presidents but not Republican presidents. This is the problem.

Now is not the time to complain about the debt burden when we seem to bee nowhere near the point of experiencing negative impacts. We can look at Japan/etc to see this.

JM

[Jon Miller]

Japan is now over 220% (the US is 130% or so). Japan is not experiencing hyper-inflation, or even inflation at the levels that most economists think they need.

Italy is also about 130%, France and UK are 85-100% which are better places to be. But the US being 130% is not an emergency.

JM

[Ben Kenobi]

It is obvious that in emergencies the debt burden will increase unless the country is already facing serious negative impacts due to the debt burden.

The problem is we're at peacetime. What happens when the US faces a major external threat? Where is the money going to come from? The US debt burden is the same as it was during 1946. This is not a great situation to be in.

Now is not the time to complain about the debt burden when we seem to bee nowhere near the point of experiencing negative impacts. We can look at Japan/etc to see this.

Japan's economy is in terrible shape. We all remember the 80s when they were dominating the world. They've stagnated since then. Same with Europe. The same is happening to the US now.