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    The last one is election and Trump based.

    I am in favor of the Biden plan. But I think it might be worth compromises. While I think a 15-dollar minimum wage, for example, is a good idea, the reality is that the most important things are
    1. ​​​​​​​the virus
    2. republican extremism
    3. good governance
    4. getting America back on it's feet
    While increasing the minimum wage is important for inequality which has been destroying America, and it would do a lot to help America recover, in the end it isn't required for the latter and the first is just not the biggest priority after Trump. Helping to bring Republicans back to the table is... and that could mean compromise. And I do not mean like Obama did where he compromised and then the Republicans back out... I mean compromise where the Republicans actually vote and contribute. I think that is what might happen with the Republican group.

    Now compromise does not mean the GOP solution. It means something in between.

    the GOP proposal (0.6b)
    • $1000 for those making under 50/100k
    • $300 per week for unemployment through June
    • $160b for Covid
    Biden's proposal (1.9t)
    • $1400 for those making under 75/150k
    • $400 per week for unemployment through September
    • >70b for struggling families
    • 350b for states and cities
    • $15 minimum wage
    • >70b for small business and veterans and health
    • >70b for Covid
    I think that Bidden does need to insure that States and Cities get some support.

    I am probably missing something, but I think that if dealing with the Republican 10 decreases Republican extremism (by strengthening the Republicans who are dealing and are not extremists) then that is worth it, maybe.

    JM
    Jon Miller-
    I AM.CANADIAN
    GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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    rEpUbLiCaN eXtReMiSm
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    • #3
      Not that it would affect me, but handing out money rather targetted seems like a good idea. Not sure saving yourself out of a crisis would be a good one tho.
      Blah

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
        rEpUbLiCaN eXtReMiSm
        extremism among a significant portion (minority or even majority) of Republicans, better?

        JM
        (I will admit to extremism among Democrats also, but outside of SF/etc it has no impact.)
        Jon Miller-
        I AM.CANADIAN
        GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Jon Miller View Post

          extremism among a significant portion (minority or even majority) of Republicans, better?

          JM
          (I will admit to extremism among Democrats also, but outside of SF/etc it has no impact.)
          I prefer the word radical for myself, since most Republicans in government aren't radical in the least. But I think the left-wing extremists just had to go from the Orange Man Bad narrative to the Republican extremists narrative.
          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
          - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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          • #6
            There are plenty of non-extremist Republicans. In the Senate, the majority are non-extremist.

            Why are you defending people who think that Jews used lasers from space to start fires in California?

            JM
            Jon Miller-
            I AM.CANADIAN
            GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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            • Berzerker
              Berzerker commented
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              and she warrants 2nd place on your agenda?

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            Originally posted by Jon Miller View Post
            There are plenty of non-extremist Republicans. In the Senate, the majority are non-extremist.

            Why are you defending people who think that Jews used lasers from space to start fires in California?

            JM
            Media matters is fake news. She's not an anti-semite. If you are going to fall for every attack on regular people in Congress then all you are going to get is garbage like McConnell. But that's what you like, because you shill for elitism.
            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
            - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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            • #8
              You people falsely accuse people of being anti-semetic, racist etc.. Democrats in Congress are actual anti-semites and don't even get censured for making actual anti-semetic comments you hypocrite.
              Last edited by Kidlicious; February 2, 2021, 14:46.
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              • -Jrabbit
                -Jrabbit commented
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                So you are, in fact, defending conspiracy theorist and QAnon adherent Rep. Greene, who has openly supported the murder of Pelosi, Obama, and others.

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              Good grief. What a joke you are JR. BTW, Fck Pelosi. She's absolutely disgusting and horrible. And that's holding back. Your kind of person though, I'm sure.
              I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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              • -Jrabbit
                -Jrabbit commented
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                So you do support her. Good to know.

            • #10
              Actually, left wing extremism seems like a much larger and more wide spread problem.
              Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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              • Uncle Sparky
                Uncle Sparky commented
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                Where? In the US? Hahahahahaha.

                In Canada Sanders would be considered a moderate Liberal, and AOC would be an old time moderate NDP.

                In Russia or Uganda your 'left wing extremists' would be considered extreme. In Europe of Canada, they'd be part of the boring political mainstream.

                Quit reading Q-Bert.

              • Dinner
                Dinner commented
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                You some how missed the hundreds upon hundreds of violent riots by Antifa/BLM where 40 people were killed, billions upon billions in property was destroyed and looted, and the hundreds of nights of outright politically motivated violence and terrorism in places like Portland and Seattle?!

              • Uncle Sparky
                Uncle Sparky commented
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                I've had you blocked, so I haven't seen any of your fantasy posts.

                And Back You Go!

                Look out for ANTIFA under your bed! They are sleeping with your wife! Or did she leave once she found out your a nutbar?

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              The establishment and left-wing extremism. There's a reason why McConnell doesn't talk about the guy that just got elected to the Senate that says America needs to repent for its whiteness.
              I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
              - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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              • #12
                Originally posted by Dinner View Post
                Actually, left wing extremism seems like a much larger and more wide spread problem.
                It wasn't lefties who stormed your capital as part of an armed insurrection against your government.
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                • Berzerker
                  Berzerker commented
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                  they spent last summer destroying neighborhoods to help the Democrats win the WH

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                Actually it was.
                I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                  Libraries are state sanctioned, so they're technically engaged in privateering. - Felch
                  I thought we're trying to have a serious discussion? It says serious in the thread title!- Al. B. Sure

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                  • #15
                    Are you allergic to truthful information?
                    I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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