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  • #46
    Trump won't even do contact tracing in the White House. He's been derelict of his duties even as a husband and father.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Kidicious View Post

      With asymptomatic spread we don't even know when the virus got here, and how many people had it. NZ got lucky.
      Total bull****. They did the right thing. Vietnam also had the same results with 14 day quarantine on all international arrivals.

      Trump said 15 would become zero and did nothing. He said it will magically disappear and did nothing. He knew and he didn't even try.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Aeson View Post

        NZ had at least 60 separate different introductions, and even some community spread. You're just making things up. Vietnam has land border with China. Both have contained it by quarantine.

        Plenty of people were calling for quarantine, contact tracing, and testing. Trump was dismissive of the danger, and was the only one who could have controlled the border. That's POTUS job, it's what Trump ran on, and he failed spectacularly.
        The states do contact tracing at the guidance of the federal government. You're misleading by claiming that the US doesn't do contact tracing.

        Personally I don't agree with quarantining travelers.. Again, the virus was already over here. Some localities quarantine travelers. I would like to see proof that it makes a significant difference.
        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
        - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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        • #49
          Vietnam and NZ are proof of what can be done. US is proof Trump failed.

          We've been mostly normal on Bohol as well, even though we had the 3rd known case outside China. 14 day quarantine on incoming travelers works if adhered to. (It's beginning to be circumvented here. Partly because the conspiracy theories that the virus isn't real.)

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          • #50
            Do you realize that if you require interstate travelers to quarantine for 14 days that you would severely harm the economy?
            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
            - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
              Do you realize that if you require interstate travelers to quarantine for 14 days that you would severely harm the economy?
              And you do realize that many states have restrictions and quarantines in place now for intestate travelers....
              Keep on Civin'
              RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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              • #52
                I moved to higher ground (at least 25 m. higher than before).
                “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

                ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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                • Berzerker
                  Berzerker commented
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                  that should be enough, once seas rise 3-5m people will get serious

                  I dont know why we cant just slow CO2 coming out of power plants or design atmospheric scrubbers to suck it out of the atmosphere, trees do it why cant we?

              • #53
                Originally posted by Ming View Post

                And you do realize that many states have restrictions and quarantines in place now for intestate travelers....
                Not to my knowledge. I've heard of requests being made. Idk, how many people follow the requests. Many, many Americans travel across state lines a lot.
                I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                • #54
                  Originally posted by Kidicious View Post

                  Not to my knowledge. I've heard of requests being made. Idk, how many people follow the requests. Many, many Americans travel across state lines a lot.
                  Then maybe you should do some actual research for a change. Many states have restrictions in place.
                  Keep on Civin'
                  RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                  • #55
                    Originally posted by Kidicious View Post

                    Not to my knowledge. I've heard of requests being made. Idk, how many people follow the requests. Many, many Americans travel across state lines a lot.
                    Apparently, Google is beyond Kid's capabilities.
                    For those of you planning a trip outside of your home state right now, CNN Travel has assembled a US travel guide so you know what you're in for before you go.
                    “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

                    ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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                    • #56
                      NZ economy (-12%) faired better than US economy (-33%), and with < 1% the deaths per capita. Clearly the right move both economically and in regards to health and safety was a quarantine, testing, and contact tracing in a coordinated national effort.

                      Clearly the wrong move was Trump's catastrophe.

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                      • #57
                        Originally posted by pchang View Post

                        Apparently, Google is beyond Kid's capabilities.
                        Do any of them force quarantine? Thanks for the help.
                        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                        - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                        • #58
                          Trumperts care about border security when migrant laborers are trying to get in but not when there's a pandemic

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                          • #59
                            Originally posted by giblets View Post
                            Trumperts care about border security when migrant laborers are trying to get in but not when there's a pandemic
                            And Bidenetts don't want Americans to be able to travel to other states.
                            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                            - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                            • #60
                              Moderators, would you please move from post #15 onward to the corona virus thread?

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