Trump won't even do contact tracing in the White House. He's been derelict of his duties even as a husband and father.
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Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
With asymptomatic spread we don't even know when the virus got here, and how many people had it. NZ got lucky.
Trump said 15 would become zero and did nothing. He said it will magically disappear and did nothing. He knew and he didn't even try.
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Originally posted by Aeson View Post
NZ had at least 60 separate different introductions, and even some community spread. You're just making things up. Vietnam has land border with China. Both have contained it by quarantine.
Plenty of people were calling for quarantine, contact tracing, and testing. Trump was dismissive of the danger, and was the only one who could have controlled the border. That's POTUS job, it's what Trump ran on, and he failed spectacularly.
Personally I don't agree with quarantining travelers.. Again, the virus was already over here. Some localities quarantine travelers. I would like to see proof that it makes a significant difference.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
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Vietnam and NZ are proof of what can be done. US is proof Trump failed.
We've been mostly normal on Bohol as well, even though we had the 3rd known case outside China. 14 day quarantine on incoming travelers works if adhered to. (It's beginning to be circumvented here. Partly because the conspiracy theories that the virus isn't real.)
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Originally posted by Kidicious View PostDo you realize that if you require interstate travelers to quarantine for 14 days that you would severely harm the economy?
Keep on Civin'
RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O
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I moved to higher ground (at least 25 m. higher than before).“It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”
― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man
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Originally posted by Ming View Post
And you do realize that many states have restrictions and quarantines in place now for intestate travelers....I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
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Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
Not to my knowledge. I've heard of requests being made. Idk, how many people follow the requests. Many, many Americans travel across state lines a lot.Keep on Civin'
RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O
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Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
Not to my knowledge. I've heard of requests being made. Idk, how many people follow the requests. Many, many Americans travel across state lines a lot.For those of you planning a trip outside of your home state right now, CNN Travel has assembled a US travel guide so you know what you're in for before you go.“It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”
― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man
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NZ economy (-12%) faired better than US economy (-33%), and with < 1% the deaths per capita. Clearly the right move both economically and in regards to health and safety was a quarantine, testing, and contact tracing in a coordinated national effort.
Clearly the wrong move was Trump's catastrophe.
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Originally posted by giblets View PostTrumperts care about border security when migrant laborers are trying to get in but not when there's a pandemicI drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
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