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[SlowwHand]

I did get the first two due to doctors recommendations. That's going to be it.
I don't do flu shots either.

[Broken_Erika]

I have both, i've probably been infected and i have the Vaccinations. Of course covid has evolved to be less deadly in order to spread better..........

[Berzerker]

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022-12-benefits-booster-dose-omicron-affected.html

More evidence natural immunity acquired from covid infection is better... still better... than a vaccination

boosters dont help people who already got infected but do help people who got the original 2 shots

[Uncle Sparky]

Coke is produced by heating coal at high temperatures, for long periods of time...
Coincidence?

[Broken_Erika]

Coca-Cola Christmas truck in flames in Romania

Coca-Cola Christmas truck in flames in Romania

A Coca-Cola truck caught fire while driving down a busy road in Romania’s capital Bucharest.
It is unclear how the fire started. The driver managed to leave the vehicle before it was engulfed in flames.
Firefighters later arrived to put out the blaze, and there were no reports of injuries.
The soft drink company told local media it was taking measures to prevent further incidents.

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-63829299

[Berzerker]

look at what chicken pox did to the new world, it was about 20-30ky ago when that population split from the old world and these bugs are even older

did the Vikings bring a plague to N America?

otoh as you say we've probably already seen the bugs that were around back then but I'm worried about what these people will do with the viruses they find ala Wuhan bat virus manipulations

[Dinner]

I am not so worried about permafrost viruses or bacteria as they already were evolutionarially out competited once and are unlikely to be better adapted now. I suppose there is the odd danger that they have been out of circulation for so long that they might become novel again. I am not sure that is really so though as evolutionary adaption seems to be extremely long lasting.

[Berzerker]

in Covid news a recent study found vaccinated people were more likely to get infected than unvaccinated people

well, sorta... the study found people who got vaccinated were indeed getting infected more than the unvaccinated but the reason was they let up on their personal 'social distancing'. The data showed for about 2-3 weeks after the shots antibodies spiked enough to ward off serious infection but as they declined and the people loosened up on social distancing they were actually getting infected at higher rates than unvaccinated people.

So Fauci and his backing chorus in the media told people they wouldn't get or spread Covid if they got vaccinated resulting in more vaccinated and unvaccinated people getting infected as the 'safe' people roamed freely.

in related news, some French institution has recovered living viruses from permafrost that can infect organisms. They say we need to study them in case they're released by global warming.

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[pchang]

Yes. Fermentation appears to be key.

[Berzerker]

maybe cabbage alone doesn't create the same benefits as kimchi since its fermented and that seems to be an additional step to creating gut diversity

[Uncle Sparky]

Match kimchi with a strong cheese and dark rye bread.
Dark beer also helps.

[pchang]

Kimchi and Bonchon do overlap.

[Dinner]

I remember having dandelion leaf kimchi. It was good. If it is a vegetable and can be salted, spiced, and pickled to last through the cold Korean winter (remember Korea is next to Siberia and Manchuria) then a Korean will make it.

[Dinner]

Kimchi is salted, herbed, and pickled vegetables. Cabbage kimchi is the most common but raddish kimchi is the second. In Korea there are dozens and dozens of types of kimchi. While in Youngsan (an American base since closed in Soeul) I had half a dozen kimchis served with one meal. Yes, I know the difference between kimchi and bonchon.

[Berzerker]

I just tried some, cabbage is cheaper but they throw in a bunch of stuff to give it zest. Aint bad in small amounts for now until I develop a taste for it.