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  • The mad man President continues with his attacks on democracy with his attempted coup to become dictator, like his buddies, by destroying democracy and ignoring the will of the people. And while doing so, Americans continue to die. And even more will die as he continues to egg his supporters into violence.
    His own loyal followers are demanding that his opposition get taken out and shot at dawn.
    And now he's trying to get his loyalists into key positions to support his coup attempt.
    It's a sad day in America as our president acts like a spoiled child.
    Keep on Civin'
    RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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    • Dictator? Who was it wants to open the country up and who wants people locked down? Ming, I'm glad you see its possible that Trump can win. You are waking up. Welcome to the real world.
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      • Who wants to ignore election results, while spinning unsupported lies and unproven conspiracy theories, demanding that state politicians ignore the will of the people...
        And no.. at this point, Trump can not win. He could try for a military coup, but that's about all that is left.
        Feel free to think that the Supreme Court will do his bidding, but even that's a long shot at this point.
        He lost... Deal with it.
        Keep on Civin'
        RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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        • Voters Ming, not ballots. Tons of ballots for Biden, far more voters for Trump. That said, the media has fed folks like you the BS that Biden won. They either haven't reported or disparaged news to the contrary while endlessly repeating that Biden is the president elect. So, I get it. A lot of folks are going to war when Trump gets the win, and a lot of folks are going to die. Its incredible! Hopefully at the end of this test the election systen is once again clean, and the will of the people will be what happens once again as a matter of course. I get it. I understand both sides. I realize that this result is exactly as I predicted long ago, that it will end with the most divisive result that could possibly be. So it is.
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          • The BS is what's being sprouted by the petulant child Trump... so far, no proof of any of Trumps wild ass claims.
            Only the far right wing media is left, as even Fox admits he lost. (except for a few ass kissers)
            And it's not Biden who's trying to incite violence, that's Trump.
            But feel free to continue to believe all the unsupported lies... but really look at who is the one inciting violence.
            Keep on Civin'
            RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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            • Feel free? I am free. Intend to stay that way. Anyway, hope you survive this mess. Good luck.
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              • I think the reason the Pentagon and Trump refuse to give Biden the intel meetings is because of the intel that they are acting on, and will be or is reported to SCOTUS when the time comes. Why give people who are benefiting from the fraud the intel that shows exactly what they are doing? Why give them more time to react?
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                • And what "intel" is that... so far, cyber security said no fraud, the states say no significant fraud, and all there is are unsupported wild ass claims... most of which have been LAUGHED out of court.
                  Try again... Trump is holding things up because he is bat **** crazy and a sore loser.
                  Keep on Civin'
                  RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                  • We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                    • And if there is really that "intel" available, don't you think Trump would be yelling it out there... but gee, no such thing so far.
                      He lost. Deal with it
                      Keep on Civin'
                      RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                      • White House exodus begins even as Trump continues to baselessly claim victory

                        A separate senior administration official described a "toxic" work environment among the dwindling number of West Wing staffers. While the Trump White House was never the model of a functional workplace, the lack of direction and sense of defeat during Trump's lame duck period has sharpened divides among staffers facing the prospect of potential unemployment.
                        "I think people are moving on because they have families or livelihoods to support," the official said.
                        "That, and the place is becoming more toxic by the day ... people turning on each other, trying to settle scores while they can," the official added.
                        White House staffers at all levels are plotting their departures as a growing number of aides to President Donald Trump are abandoning his quest to overturn the 2020 election results – some in frustration with the building they are leaving behind.


                        Old news but still relevant
                        We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                        • It seem everybody BUT the trumpettes and Trump know the TRUTH
                          And what does America get... a little child who can't admit he was beat. SAD
                          And Americans continue to die because he won't do his job Really Sad
                          Keep on Civin'
                          RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                          • Oh, they all know the truth. They just don't want to believe that Trump will fail to get 4 more years, and are terrified that they will be ostracized as disloyal.

                            The sad thing is, this attitude/belief system indicates that these people truly believe the system is so corrupt that Trump will find a way to weasel his way in, despite Team Trump producing literally no evidence of election fraud, spreading obvious lies, and losing every lawsuit they filed. So at their core, these Trumpers don't believe in American democracy; they just want to be on the winning side and have decided DJT is their guy.
                            Last edited by -Jrabbit; December 7, 2020, 13:17.
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                            • And another shot down...
                              Sidney Powell’s Michigan ‘Kraken’ Suit Slammed by U.S. Judge

                              A federal judge in Michigan denied ex-Trump campaign lawyer Sidney Powell’s request to decertify the state’s election result and slammed her claims of a vast election-fraud conspiracy as an assault on hard-fought voting rights.
                              The suit against Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer and Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson is one of those Powell, who is no longer associated with President Donald Trump’s legal team, filed last month and referred to as releasing the Kraken, a mythical sea monster depicted in the 1981 fantasy film “Clash of the Titans.”
                              Calling Powell’s claims of voting irregularities “an amalgamation of theories, conjecture, and speculation,” U.S. District Judge Linda V. Parker said in a ruling on Monday that the suit didn’t put forth the kind of evidence that would justify placing the election results in doubt to allow inspections of voting machines, software and security footage of polling places.
                              “They seek relief that is stunning in its scope and breathtaking in its reach,” Parker wrote. “If granted, the relief would disenfranchise the votes of the more than 5.5 million Michigan citizens who, with dignity, hope, and a promise of a voice, participated in the 2020 General Election.”
                              The judge added that Powell’s suit, which alleges foreign agents from Iran and China infiltrated voting machines and switched votes from Trump to President-elect Joe Biden with help from “communist money” and hundreds of corrupt Democratic election workers, seemed less about seeking relief in court than undermining “people’s faith in the democratic process and their trust in our government.”
                              “The people have spoken,” said Parker, a Barack Obama appointee.
                              Powell didn’t immediately respond to a message seeking comment.
                              The decision adds to the long string of legal defeats by the president’s campaign and its allies as they seek to upend the results. Trump lost Michigan by more than 150,000 votes. Georgia officials asked a judge to toss out Powell’s parallel case in that state on Saturday.
                              Parker ruled Powell had waited much too long to file her Nov. 25 Michigan complaint, noting the suit alleges irregularities existed before Election Day, with some claims about voting-machines dating back more than a decade.
                              “If Plaintiffs had legitimate concerns about the election machines and software, they could have filed this lawsuit well before the 2020 General Election -- yet they sat back and did nothing,” the judge said. “While plaintiffs delayed, the ballots were cast; the votes were counted; and the results were certified.”
                              Parker also said Trump voters who claim to have witnessed vote-switching or counting of improper ballots by poll workers and whose affidavits Powell submitted as evidence used words like “believe” and “may” to equivocate.

                              “A belief is not evidence,” the judge said.
                              Keep on Civin'
                              RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                              • Psychiatrist and Yale University professor Bandy X. Lee believes what's truly at stake now is the mental health of Americans who have witnessed Trump's erratic behavior for four years.

                                What do you think the election loss will do to those who supported President Trump?


                                They are going to be the most vulnerable. We know how some of them reject facts and reality, even currently. We know how painful it is for some of them to face reality. A fair percentage will experience the trauma after this presidency. If there were another President Trump to appear, they would be vulnerable to attaching to him, as to avoid facing reality. A lot of them will be simply clinging to the delusions. They cannot face letting go of their wishful thinking and their image of a savior or rescuer would be shattered. The more harmed they are, the more difficult it becomes to accept even the possibility that he could be harming them. There's a psychological collusion that's happening. His followers in particular were primed for someone with similar developmental defects to come around and entice them. There's a kind of narcissistic symbiosis that happens between him and his followers.


                                What's the psychology behind Trump's overall strategy?


                                He would be the last one to believe that he could be productive and that he could do things that are good for the nation. That's why he covers up with facade and invests in image rather than substance. Why he cannot accept the COVID-19 pandemic is real? Once he accepts, he would have to do something. He knows he will not be able to do anything because he knows he cannot do something about it. Deep down, he's overrun with the feelings of worthlessness and inadequacy. He's probably of an emotional age of 2 or 3 at best, from a psychological standpoint. That's the age where you revert to violence, aggression when you don't get your way.

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                                • pchang
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                                  Poor Kid. Poor Lancer. It was clear where Kid was headed all along, but the real surprise is Lancer.

                                • -Jrabbit
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                                  There are times when I wonder if this is even the same person as the Lancer I remember.
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