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Maybe all the Trump minions should save us all time and just post "BS" instead of all the long winded spoon fed Trump conspiracy theories.
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No they haven't. Whoever you got that from just smeared them and you fell for it again because Orange Man Bad.Originally posted by Ming View PostI drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Not a totally awful comeback. Ming, I'll give it a '6', not more.Long time member @ Apolyton
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But I paid someone to say they saw fraud.
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OH.. you mean like those totally "expert witnesses" that supplied data about a state from places that weren't even in the state... that you fell for.Originally posted by Kidicious View PostKeep on Civin'
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I agree... not the best, but above averageOriginally posted by Lancer View Post
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They had a county that doesn't even exist in any state
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And Kid gleefully re-posted it without doing his "research" because the mistake/error had already been pointed out and been reported on.Keep on Civin'
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The con that you fell for is that the true data doesn't indicate fraud. It does.Originally posted by Ming View Post
So on my side I have experts that made a mistake and corrected them. On your side you have garbage media like the WaPo telling you that there was no fraud because someone accidentally used the wrong data, even though that has been corrected and fraud has been proven.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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That was just one example... but typical of you to respond like that.
There have been plenty of other "expert witnesses" that have either lied, recanted, and proven to be wrong...
On the other hand, the FBI, Justice Department, Most of the states, U.S. Cyber Security Director and others disagree with you... but I'm sure you will just post some DEEP STATE nonsense. But those experts don't count. Because only experts that agree with you are to be trustedKeep on Civin'
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Russ Ramsland wasn't proven to be a liar or wrong. Someone caught a mistake in his work. But you got fooled.Originally posted by Ming View PostI drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Gee... how was I the one fooled... I actually did research and knew it was a mistake BEFORE I posted while you just posted it without doing any research and was caught with your pants down... It looks like you were the one FOOLED
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You didn't catch anything. A guy at Powerblog did, and then WaPo did a smear job which you got fooled into believing means that there was no fraud.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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I'll leave it to the other members here to make up their own minds on who was fooled here...Keep on Civin'
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Postal Service Delays Disenfranchised Thousands of Legally-Cast Ballots This Fall
Because more than half the states – including most of the key battlegrounds – don’t provide a grace period for ballots that arrive after Election Day, it is likely 25,000-50,000 ballots nationwide were ultimately rejected because of USPS problems.
US Postal Service workers likely delivered more than 99.9% of the nation’s mail ballots in-time to be counted this year, despite record participation and unprecedented pandemic-related challenges. However, it also appears the USPS disenfranchised tens of thousands of voters – who mailed legally-cast ballots the week before the election - through substandard performance.
New postmaster general Louis DeJoy faced months of accusations from critics who claimed dozens of cost-cutting moves he instituted at the USPS this summer were designed to slow down the mail ahead of the election and help the man who appointed him, President Trump. There was a precipitous drop in first-class letter performance following DeJoy’s takeover, and despite a series of lawsuits that forced the USPS to rollback the reforms ahead of the election, the agency’s performance never fully recovered by Election Day. That meant millions of mail ballots took longer than normal to get to elections offices.
NBCLX analyzed election records - as well as postal records obtained through federal court filings - to find out how many ballots, cast the week before the election, were ultimately rejected.
Because each state collects ballot statistics differently, it’s impossible to know exactly how many ballots arrived after state deadlines or how many of those were due to USPS delays. But records indicate the figure is likely no more than a few thousand votes in any given state – not enough to change the results of a single battleground in 2020.
“All of us, I think, stopped a true disaster from happening,” said Remy Green, a New York attorney who sued President Trump, Postmaster DeJoy, and the USPS over delays this summer. “This could have been so much worse.”
Green’s lawsuit was one of several that forced the USPS to roll back dozens of changes and start disclosing internal performance reports they didn’t want to share. Those reports shed light on how much Election Mail was getting delivered – or held up – each day this fall.
The USPS aims to deliver Election Mail in 1-3 days, with approximately 8% percent of ballots mailed 2-4 days before the election significantly delayed. That likely translates to between 50,000 to 100,000 ballots delivered after Election Day.
Because more than half the states – including most of the key battlegrounds – don’t provide a grace period for ballots that arrive after Election Day, it is likely 25,000-50,000 ballots nationwide were ultimately rejected because of USPS problems. That’s only 1,000 to 2,000 in most states with strict deadlines, and there was no state this year where one candidate’s margin of victory was less than 10,000.
“If this had been closer,” Green continued, “if this election had been like the 2000 election in any way, we would be seeing much more success in the attempt to essentially undermine the results of the election.”
A postal service spokesperson declined an NBCLX interview request, but identified a series of measures the agency took this fall to prioritize Election Mail; that includes employee overtime, hundreds of extra truck trips to elections offices, and more than 100 million September postcards reminding Americans to plan at least 7 days for their ballots to arrive safely.
“It was our mission to deliver the nation’s political and election mail in a timely and secure manner,” DeJoy told the USPS Board of Governors this month. “I am proud to say that we accomplished that mission.”
DeJoy said 98% of mail successfully identified as a ballot was delivered from voters to election officials within 3 days, with 99.7% delivered within five days, even though critics have claimed not every ballot was successfully identified as a ballot. Over the course of the year, DeJoy said the postal service delivered 610 million pieces of election mail and 4 billion pieces of political mail successfully.
“I'm not about to give a participation trophy to the USPS this time,” said Charles Stewart, political science professor at MIT and co-director of the Stanford-MIT Healthy Elections Project. “But I will give credit to voters who got the message and heeded the warnings about the possibilities that their ballots wouldn't get delivered and got them in on-time.”
Elections records show the typical late surge in mail ballots cast came much earlier in 2020 than previous elections, meaning one of the top reasons for mail ballot rejections, according to the U.S. Election Commission – late arrivals – appears to be a much smaller reason for rejection this year. South Carolina, for instance, reported 44% fewer late ballots in November than for their June primary, despite four times as many votes cast by mail.
Less electoral procrastination also appears to have reduced rejection rates related to signature issues, as elections officials in many states had time to alert voters who made procedural errors in early October, allowing them to fix their mistakes though a legal “curing” process.
“It was really heartening to see not only the experiment going well, but everything it took to make it happen,” said Stewart. “Voters have taken a bite of the apple and many of them are going to continue voting by mail.”Comment
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