Who do you tip to win the US presidential election

[Jon Miller]

The Dems have totally screwed up when they decided to financially and organizationally back the Antifa riots as it is turning lots of people against Democrats.

But they haven't.

A big question is: "How can the democrats help people from believing straight up falsehoods provided by their opponents?"

And the answer to that is... I am not sure how. You are even an educated person.

JM

[Jon Miller]

While the most recent poll is very concerning for Minnesota (for those of us who acknowledge the disaster that Trump has been for the US, the world and everything we care about). However, neither models take it into account much. In late July Minnesota was still polling very solidly for Biden, not sure what might have changed in the last Month (Floyd's death was in May).

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/minnesota/

https://projects.economist.com/us-2020-forecast/president/minnesota

There have been no antifa riots, but what antifa action that there is isn't really in Minnesota, rather in Oregon.

JM

[Dinner]

But they haven't.

A big question is: "How can the democrats help people from believing straight up falsehoods provided by their opponents?"

And the answer to that is... I am not sure how. You are even an educated person.

JM

Except they are not falsehoods. There is a ton of videos and first hand testimony of the violence, riots, looting, and arson. I am afraid you need to get out of your media bubble if you haven’t seen that. I try very hard to watch a wide variety of news sources and I have to say the amount of outright falsehoods and lies being told (“peaceful protesters”) is just staggering.

[Dinner]

While the most recent poll is very concerning for Minnesota (for those of us who acknowledge the disaster that Trump has been for the US, the world and everything we care about). However, neither models take it into account much. In late July Minnesota was still polling very solidly for Biden, not sure what might have changed in the last Month (Floyd's death was in May).
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...ral/minnesota/
https://projects.economist.com/us-20...dent/minnesota

There have been no antifa riots, but what antifa action that there is isn't really in Minnesota, rather in Oregon.

JM

Incorrect. Black bloc was every where in the videos carrying out the violence, arson, and armed attacks. That is simply a statement of fact. Yes, they have also been rioting continuously in Portland and Chicago, and numerous other cities as well.

[-Jrabbit]

Portland violence is clearly and nightly amped up by Proud Boys, who are now flashing guns. (See WaPo, HuffPo, others.) PPB has publicly stated they will let it continue. This is not the one-dimensional picture you're trying to paint for us. Look at your own media bubble.

[Jon Miller]

Black bloc? Do you mean black politicians? I have not seen a single reference to black democratic politicians being involved in violence, arson or armed attacks of any sort. Or any other democratic politicians.

Is there any evidence of any sort that any democratic politicians at the national level (or even prominent state level) have supported violence, arson, armed attacks or antifa either financially or organizationally?

If there were all sorts of armed attacks, where are the deaths?

Can you provide the slightest bit of evidence for any of your inflammatory extremist claims?

JM

[Jon Miller]

That is simply a statement of fact.

Show some evidence please. Any evidence that Democratic politicians and leaders are encouraging violence, arson or armed attacks or that antifa is present or active outside of Portland and a few isolated instances in places like Chicago.

JM

[Jon Miller]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/protests-antifa-absent/2020/06/13/7f14b8fa-ab80-11ea-9063-e69bd6520940_story.html

Where is antifa?

JM

[Kidlicious]

But they haven't.

A big question is: "How can the democrats help people from believing straight up falsehoods provided by their opponents?"

And the answer to that is... I am not sure how. You are even an educated person.

JM

It's not a falsehood just because the Ds don't come out and say it.

[Kidlicious]

While the most recent poll is very concerning for Minnesota (for those of us who acknowledge the disaster that Trump has been for the US, the world and everything we care about). However, neither models take it into account much. In late July Minnesota was still polling very solidly for Biden, not sure what might have changed in the last Month (Floyd's death was in May).

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/minnesota/

https://projects.economist.com/us-2020-forecast/president/minnesota

There have been no antifa riots, but what antifa action that there is isn't really in Minnesota, rather in Oregon.

JM

You're confusing the false narrative with reality, and more important the true perception of regular Joe voters.

[Ming]

I wish I could have been a fly on the wall when Trump first heard that the Monday ratings for the Look at ME ME ME Trump Show (aka The Republican Convention) were down 30% from the first day last year. And even worse, was 3 million less viewers than the the first day of the Democrat Convention. I bet his head exploded and look forward to some childish tweets from him claiming fake ratings or whining about how the networks didn't provide good coverage... Oh that's right, he already has whined about the network coverage...

[Kidlicious]

Show some evidence please. Any evidence that Democratic politicians and leaders are encouraging violence, arson or armed attacks or that antifa is present or active outside of Portland and a few isolated instances in places like Chicago.

JM

How about calling them peaceful protesters? Or how about not doing anything about it.

[Ming]

In Kidland...
Anything that he doesn't agree with = fake narrative
Any crap being spoon fed to him by alt right propaganda sites = reality

[Kidlicious]

We talking about the conspiracy theorists that called the Post Master General into a hearing. Then when he testified under oath that there was nothing nefarious going on they accused him of not knowing what a stamp costs. Fcking liars, every last one.

[-Jrabbit]

Actually, they just asked him. And he stated under oath that he didn't know. (Of course that may be a lie. After all, he also stated under oath that his changes had nothing to do with the election, LOL.)

[Ming]

Blah blah blah.
Trump is keeping all the fact checkers busy with all the lies he has already told during the first day of his convention

[Kidlicious]

What a joke. Your fact checkers are a complete joke.

[Kidlicious]

Democrats refuse to condemn Antifa at Senate hearing.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/08/04/watch-democrats-refuse-to-condemn-antifa-in-senate-hearing/