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I'm not a big fan of people who shame minorities for not voting D. I will not read what you suggest.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
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You don't call people White Supremacist! You don't name and shame people!
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So you are against free speech, and in favor of dark money. Nice. Julian Castro did not call anyone a white supremacist. And all individual donations of $200 or more to political campaigns are a matter of public record. BY LAW. Castro only called out the max donors, and my guess is that they are pretty proud to support their Dear Leader and don't feel shamed -- considering their large donations.
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I'm in favor of dark money now. The people who gave us the 1st Amendment protested anonymously to hide their identities from the King, free speech erodes when the King knows who is criticizing him. That poses a problem for me, transparency is required for boycotts. I want to know if my representative gets megabucks from corporations. Quite a dilemma.
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Originally posted by giblets View PostMaybe people don't want to patronize businesses run by people who give money to a narcissistic pu$$y grabberI drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
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Look man, there are your people out there that never heard that correction and believe that ****. Do you have any ****ing shame for defending scum like that!
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Your outrage is hilarious and/or hypocritical, esp. considering how your Daddy Trump flip-flops from supporting white nationalists to denouncing them, then turns right around and supports them again. But his WN friends see only the support. And they certainly have no ****ing shame for defending THAT scum.
But that's not what happened here. I searched you panicky sentence, did my own research, and learned the facts. Then I shared them in a post. I know that sounds like a lot of effort to you, but it only took me about 30 seconds.
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Ok so I read it JR. Happy? This comes right after the shooting. He is blaming Hispanics in San Antonio for the murder of those people buy talking about Trump calling illegal immigrants people that are "invading" the country. The shooter used the word "invade." So he was shaming those Hispanics for supporting the murder of Hispanics. And you wanted me to read the tweet!I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
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Originally posted by Kidicious View PostOk so I read it JR. Happy? This comes right after the shooting. He is blaming Hispanics in San Antonio for the murder of those people buy talking about Trump calling illegal immigrants people that are "invading" the country. The shooter used the word "invade." So he was shaming those Hispanics for supporting the murder of Hispanics. And you wanted me to read the tweet!
Fun fact that makes me think you just lied about reading the original Castro tweet: There are very few Latin-sounding names - most would say NONE - on the list of 44 Maximum Trump Donor San Antonians:
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RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms
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So now a bunch of elderly retired people can worry about someone attacking them and the people with jobs can join the unemployed. Castro reminds me of the prolifers who terrorize abortion doctors by publishing their 'public information'.
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You guys need to get a grip. Every political donor who gives $200 or more to a single politician in a year is listed in the public record by the Federal Election Commission, info that is available freely to all. This is just a bunch of hand-waving.
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Originally posted by Aeson View PostIf they were there "with Antifa" then they aren't "fine people". There's a difference between participating in a rally, and counterprotesting the rally though.
Showing up to counterprotest the Unite the Right rally doesn't mean you are there "with Antifa", even if Antifa shows up too. That's because your counterprotest location was determined by Unite the Right rally. Everyone who wants to counterprotest it has to be there at that specific time.
If you are there to participate in the Unite the Right rally, which was organized by Jason Kessler (the guy too racist for the Proud Boys or Richard Spencer), then you are "with" Neo Nazis and White Supremacists. Those who didn't want to associate with the Neo Nazis and White Supremacists could have held their own rally at a different time and/or location. But they chose to be there with the Nazis and White Supremacists, lending moral support to them. So they aren't "fine people".
If Antifa were to hold a Unite the Left rally where they plan to pay homage to Stalin's Holodomor ... then yes, anyone who shows up to join that rally is a terrible person. Anyone who showed up to counterprotest it could have been a "fine person" even if the some White Nationalists showed up to counterprotest too. Same can be said of anyone who wanted to march along with Black Lives Matter chanting "Pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon".
In the very same press conference Trump clearly condemned the neo-Nazis and white supremacists, but the media conveniently ignores what he said about them because it conflicts with their lie that he called neo-Nazis fine people. So guess what clip the media runs with - they show the night time tiki torch march alongside Trump's 'fine people on both sides' comment about the day time protest turned brawl. Who was the other side during the tiki torch march? Antifa didn't show up to protest them, there was no other side. The guilt by association you're employing for your double standard was used against people during the red scare of the McCarthy era.
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Apparently "flippant" is the new "factual"...
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Originally posted by Berzerker View Post
Did you read the list of participants submitted to the police for the permit? I did, the majority of protesters were not neo-Nazis. They were various groups with their own causes protesting what they perceive to be a politically correct effort to remove history from the public square. If they shared the neo-Nazi's ideology they would have attended their night time tiki torch march. It doesn't matter who organized the 'unite the right' protest, he doesn't speak for all the other people who showed up to defend a statue.
In the very same press conference Trump clearly condemned the neo-Nazis and white supremacists, but the media conveniently ignores what he said about them because it conflicts with their lie that he called neo-Nazis fine people. So guess what clip the media runs with - they show the night time tiki torch march alongside Trump's 'fine people on both sides' comment about the day time protest turned brawl. Who was the other side during the tiki torch march? Antifa didn't show up to protest them, there was no other side. The guilt by association you're employing for your double standard was used against people during the red scare of the McCarthy era.
The Unite the Right rally was in August, and was set up by Jason Kessler. When a White Nationalist or Neo Nazi asks you to unite with them, literally in a rally to "Unite" with White Nationalists and KKK ... it says something about you if you accept. It says something about you when you march alongside those waving Nazi flags or chanting "The Jews will not replace us". Anyone worth a hill of beans would have left, or better yet, started counterprotesting the rally at that point. For what it's worth, most of the participants in Unite the Right rally seem to have figured this out, and declined to attend Unite the Right II also set up by Jason Kessler. Even Richard Spencer wasn't willing to associate with him at that point.
Anyone who wished to protest the removal of the statue without uniting with White Nationalists and KKK in the Unite the Right rally had ample time to have their own seperate rally where they could control the messaging. It was not, and is not, a time critical issue.
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Specifically in regards to the claim that what I am doing is a double standard ... I would say the same about ANY group that willfully rallies with a hate group that organized the rally whether left or right or otherwise.
In regards to it being McCarthyism ... that's absurd. I am not saying there should be legal or government action against anyone involved. Only that there is a very real implication to marching beside a hate group in their rally, especially when it's LITERALLY a rally to "unite" with them.
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Originally posted by Aeson View PostThe night time tiki torch rally was earlier in the year in May, and was in large part responsible for bringing the issue to the national level. Richard Spencer (avowed White Nationalist) set that one up. There was also a KKK rally a month earlier. These rallies set the stage for the Unite the Right rally. Anyone attending had to have known who they were uniting with by that point.
The Unite the Right rally was in August, and was set up by Jason Kessler. When a White Nationalist or Neo Nazi asks you to unite with them, literally in a rally to "Unite" with White Nationalists and KKK ... it says something about you if you accept. It says something about you when you march alongside those waving Nazi flags or chanting "The Jews will not replace us". Anyone worth a hill of beans would have left, or better yet, started counterprotesting the rally at that point. For what it's worth, most of the participants in Unite the Right rally seem to have figured this out, and declined to attend Unite the Right II also set up by Jason Kessler. Even Richard Spencer wasn't willing to associate with him at that point.
Anyone who wished to protest the removal of the statue without uniting with White Nationalists and KKK in the Unite the Right rally had ample time to have their own seperate rally where they could control the messaging. It was not, and is not, a time critical issue.
If you supported the statue and heard a protest was this weekend you'd attend without knowing or caring who else was coming. That doesn't make you a neo-Nazi anymore than attending a free speech rally makes you a communist because commies showed up. But it would in Joe McCarthy's mind.
Specifically in regards to the claim that what I am doing is a double standard ... I would say the same about ANY group that willfully rallies with a hate group that organized the rally whether left or right or otherwise.
In regards to it being McCarthyism ... that's absurd. I am not saying there should be legal or government action against anyone involved. Only that there is a very real implication to marching beside a hate group in their rally, especially when it's LITERALLY a rally to "unite" with them.
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