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Then-National Security Adviser Michael Flynn told FBI agents at the White House on January 24, 2017 "not really" when asked if he had sought to convince Russian ambassador not to escalate a brewing fight with the U.S. over sanctions imposed by the Obama administration, according to an explosive new FD-302 witness report released just hours before Flynn is set to be sentenced.
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That's not a lie.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Comey: "I'm very proud of the way the FBI conducted itself."I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Flynn and his lawyers faced the same problem that has bedeviled Trump and Michael Cohen and Michael Avenatti and Paul Manafort and several other figures in this circus we call life after 2016: a muscular public relations strategy is often a terrible litigation strategy. Time and again, these players have heard their public statements quoted back at them in court to undermine their legal positions. But Flynn’s error was even more grievous – he incorporated media spin into a sentencing brief.
Flynn’s lawyers argued in his brief that the FBI wronged him: wronged him by discouraging him from having an attorney present during his interview, by failing to warn him that false statements during the interview would be a crime, and by not telling him that his answers were inconsistent with their evidence so that he could correct himself. The Flynn-as-Deep-State-victim narrative was pleasing to Trump partisans and Mueller foes, but suicidally provocative to a federal judge at sentencing.
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Federal judges demand sincere acceptance of responsibility from people pleading guilty, especially when they’re cooperating with the government, and especially when they’re asking for a lenient sentence. Flynn’s sentencing arguments effectively told Sullivan that Flynn saw himself as a victim, rather than a contrite wrongdoer.
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Flynn’s tactical error was compounded by unfortunate timing. On Monday, federal prosecutors in Virginia indicted two Flynn associates for violating the Foreign Agents Registration Act; and the indictment clearly demonstrated Flynn’s central role in the crime. Sullivan pounced on this fact. He implied that Flynn, by being allowed to plead to the single false statement charge, has already escaped more punishment than he should.
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For a year online conspiracy theorists and marginal publications have argued that Sullivan would dismiss the case because the government failed to turn over exculpatory material, or because his interview was conducted incorrectly.
Since Flynn filed his sentencing brief, more mainstream outlets – including Fox News and the Wall Street Journal’s editorial page – have taken up the cause, proclaiming that the FBI broke the law in its interview. Those arguments are, and have always been, errant nonsense, as any legal professional should know.
...Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
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That's a bad analysis. The Atlantic has to put a negative spin on it, just like all the fake news. Even Fox News is putting a negative spin on it, because they don't want to be attacked.
But look at what happened. The judge asked the prosecutors what other crimes Flynn could be charged with. They said, "The Logan Act." To which the judge laughed at them. But what didn't they say? Collusion, which isn't an actual crime, but they didn't say any crime that had anything to do with colluding with Russia. That's what happened.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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And no one at Fox News or the WSJ said that they broke the law by interviewing Flynn that is fake news and only the most stupid people would believe it. Interviewing Flynn the way they did was unethical, showed bias, and was against protocol. It was an abuse of power and evidence of the Deep State's effort to undermine the President and his administration.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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O.K., in that case perhaps they should just sentence him for all the crimes he is accused of (and which he got off because of his cooperation with Mueller) ...Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
I am sure that, like his 2 associates, he wouldn't get off so lightly as he would with the one sentence for lying to the FBI
Regarding the Atlantic Opinion piece:
Well, the author, Ken White, is an attorney and a former federal prosecutor ... I would imagine he has a lot of first hand knowledge about how things are run in a federal courtTamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
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For further reading:
This article lists, among other things, the large number of lies Flynn told to the FBITamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
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I guess you didn't read the post before this. There is no other crime they can charge him with. They testified to that under oath.Originally posted by Proteus_MST View Post
O.K., in that case perhaps they should just sentence him for all the crimes he is accused of (and which he got off because of his cooperation with Mueller) ...
I am sure that, like his 2 associates, he wouldn't get off so lightly as he would with the one sentence for lying to the FBI
Regarding the Atlantic Opinion piece:
Well, the author, Ken White, is an attorney and a former federal prosecutor ... I would imagine he has a lot of first hand knowledge about how things are run in a federal courtI drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Sure. Like "Not really." Sure.Originally posted by Proteus_MST View PostFor further reading:
This article lists, among other things, the large number of lies Flynn told to the FBII drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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If the source is as trustworthy as the source that told you, Nancy Pelosi surrounds her house by a big weall, then I wouldn't trust it at allOriginally posted by Kidicious View Post
Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
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Oh, you don't believe the transcript? No wonder you believe fakefact.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Well:
And regarding Flynns lying:As a prosecutor who handled hundreds of cooperation deals like Flynn’s, I don’t doubt the sincerity of the judge’s outrage over the nature of Flynn’s criminal conduct. It includes not only lying to the FBI but also the more serious uncharged crime of trying to secretly influence American politics by acting as an unregistered agent of the Turkish government.
Flynn’s primary contention was that he was not warned that lying to the FBI was a crime. He implied that if the FBI had warned him not to lie, he would have told the truth. Flynn’s back-pedaling did not sit well with Mueller. He noted in his own memo that Flynn had lied about his communication with the Russian ambassador weeks before his FBI interview.
According to Mueller, Flynn’s lies to the FBI were simply a continuation of the same lies he’d made to the incoming vice president, chief of staff and press secretary. Mueller wrapped-up his rebuke by noting that “a sitting National Security Advisor, former head of an intelligence agency, retired Lieutenant General, and 33-year veteran of the armed forces knows he should not lie to federal agents.”
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/opinio...mn/2355971002/Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
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The prosecutors said that he was not an agent of the Turkish government. Why do you keep posting **** fake news?I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Quote with link pleaseTamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
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Originally posted by Proteus_MST View PostNPRAt another point, the judge asked prosecutor Brandon Van Grack whether Flynn's conduct might have amounted to "treason" and also suggested that Flynn may have been acting as a foreign agent during his 24 days in the Trump White House.
Van Grack responded that Flynn's undeclared lobbying work for Turkey ended before his stint in the White House and that "the government has no reason to believe that the defendant has committed treason."
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The judge later said he was merely asking the questions, not drawing any conclusions.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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