EU GDPR

[pchang]

The way US sanctions typically get you is though banking. The US can demand that any bank doing business in the US must abide by the sanctions. Thus, even though the sanctions are on country X, anyone in country Y who wants to do business with country X must do so without using any banks that do business in the US. In practice, this makes US sanctions pretty hard to bypass. I figure the EU is counting on something similar.

I wonder if anonymized data is one way around this.

As for you Cort Haus, I doubt very much that your perspectives on certain political issues would align you to the likes of Kid and Ben to the point we would all ostracize you.

[Aeson]

Also, it's not so much the perspective as the way it's presented. Cort is intelligent and well spoken, so even if I disagree with him on an issue it's likely at least a cordial discussion rather than a turd throwing contest.

[pchang]

Will Internet companies play hardball by forcing all EU users to click an "accept" button in order to use their services?

[Dauphin]

Given they had an accept cookies or don't accept cookies notification after the law on cookie notification, I assume they would have an accept and be tracked or say no and be "anonymous" to the extent you can be anonymous and still receive a meaningful service.

[Ben Kenobi]

As you can see I'm not a massive fan, but wondered if there were others here who are working on it.

Seems to me your usual regulatory overreach. And for that matter, not a fan of American overreach and taxation on citizens overseas. Americans should be legally responsible to their resident jurisdiction only, rather than face the spectre of double taxation elsewhere.

20 million on firms doing business within the EU also seems like it would be unenforceable and a major storm on their business climate.

[Cort Haus]

But hey, no one here supports the all-consuming telepathic techno-blob and yet I still manage to fit in and have discussions.

Tell me, in synopsis, more about this all-consuming telepathic techno-blob. It sounds a little bit on the dystopian side, to be honest. Something out of the late-game of Civ CTP, perhaps?

[Cort Haus]

The way US sanctions typically get you is though banking. The US can demand that any bank doing business in the US must abide by the sanctions. Thus, even though the sanctions are on country X, anyone in country Y who wants to do business with country X must do so without using any banks that do business in the US. In practice, this makes US sanctions pretty hard to bypass. I figure the EU is counting on something similar.

I wonder if anonymized data is one way around this.

As for you Cort Haus, I doubt very much that your perspectives on certain political issues would align you to the likes of Kid and Ben to the point we would all ostracize you.

Thanks for that explanation. Sounds like a a good time to set up a bank that doesn't do business in the US, then. Make a few quid there, I expect.

And I expect the EU GDPR works in a similar way. If you don't comply you can't do business in the EU. Two globalist, supra-nationalist entities attempting to use their power to force the world to bend the knee. There. I said it.

[Lorizael]

Tell me, in synopsis, more about this all-consuming telepathic techno-blob. It sounds a little bit on the dystopian side, to be honest. Something out of the late-game of Civ CTP, perhaps?

I'm interested in making the universe self-aware. As far as I can tell, this is going to involve creating a universe-sized collective intelligence through technology that lets us explore the space of possible minds. Joining the blob is entirely voluntary, because non-consenting people are not optimally productive. Once we've achieved omniscience, we might have some chance of discovering something true about reality.

You might object with, "What if the universe is already self-aware, and we are but ignorant ants?" And to that I say, "Well, there's only one way to find out."

You might also object with, "Wow, that sounds unspeakably awful." And to that I say, "That's okay, because someday you will die and eventually your atoms will find their way into an entity that does not object to my insane plan."

[giblets]

What if the universe decides to kill itself when it realizes Trump is POTUS?

[ZEE]

If I fart, do I also fart in an alternate dimension? If so is the smell the same?

[pchang]

Your technoblob will essentially suffer from schizophrenia. Split brain is a natural consequence of trying to communicate with yourself across anything more than a few light days of distance.

[BeBMan]

And I expect the EU GDPR works in a similar way. If you don't comply you can't do business in the EU. Two globalist, supra-nationalist entities attempting to use their power to force the world to bend the knee. There. I said it.

I guess that is the same for any country, no? If I want to do business in/with whatever-land, I'm bound by the rules, regulations or laws of whatever-land (unless there are some wider bi/mulitlateral things handling that). It would be rather surprising otherwise.

Sanctions are no different - if country X enacts any sanctions re country Y it would be rather absurd to say someth. like "but if you'r a foreign company you can do business here in/with X but you're not bound by sanctions we put in place".

[Aeson]

I'm interested in making the universe self-aware. As far as I can tell, this is going to involve creating a universe-sized collective intelligence through technology that lets us explore the space of possible minds. Joining the blob is entirely voluntary, because non-consenting people are not optimally productive. Once we've achieved omniscience, we might have some chance of discovering something true about reality.

You might object with, "What if the universe is already self-aware, and we are but ignorant ants?" And to that I say, "Well, there's only one way to find out."

You might also object with, "Wow, that sounds unspeakably awful." And to that I say, "That's okay, because someday you will die and eventually your atoms will find their way into an entity that does not object to my insane plan."

You are self aware, yet only portions of yourself are self aware. Thus we can say the universe is self-aware, as long as there is someone out there who thinks they are the universe and identifies with all of it.

[Lorizael]

I was just answering Cort's question. I don't want to crap all over his thread by getting into some involved discussion about my crazy beliefs.

[Cort Haus]

I guess that is the same for any country, no? If I want to do business in/with whatever-land, I'm bound by the rules, regulations or laws of whatever-land (unless there are some wider bi/mulitlateral things handling that). It would be rather surprising otherwise.

Sanctions are no different - if country X enacts any sanctions re country Y it would be rather absurd to say someth. like "but if you'r a foreign company you can do business here in/with X but you're not bound by sanctions we put in place".

So if we buy oil from Saudi Arabia our women folk should wear niqabs?