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Okay, what can we realistically expect from a Trump presidency?
Further thought: obviously, we are going to be super snugglebunnies with Russia now. I can accept that, as Putin is certainly no more revolting than the Saudis.
I'm happy you and the Ruskis won't be throwing nukes at each other.
Libraries are state sanctioned, so they're technically engaged in privateering. - Felch
I thought we're trying to have a serious discussion? It says serious in the thread title!- Al. B. Sure
I will just stop here as Ming has already warned me not to pursue this.
No... I warned you not to include petty insults in every post. You are more than welcome to argue policy and opinions. Just act like an adult while doing it.
Uhhhh... that's what he did the entire election... inflame those who opposed him... and how did that work out?
More will turn out in the next election when the democrats pony up a better candidate.
For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)
my point, which is inarguable, is that the predictions about trump so far have turned out to be wrong; therefore, all the people saying 'trump certainly will/won't do this or that' should take that into account.
Predicting how people will vote in an election and predicting what Trump would be able to do as president are two different things.
Remember that Trump made his first appearance on the public stage suing New York City claiming he had been forced to rent apartments to "welfare deadbeats". It turned out the "welfare deadbeats" consisted of disabled veterans, city employees, pensioners and retirees living on SSI. He claimed the riffraff had damaged his apartments, but affidavits from repair services indicated the damages had come from faulty plumbing and wiring. He accused the deadbeats of failing to pay rent yet a court ordered review of his books failed to find a single instance of a renter failing to meet the grace period mandated by city law. This guy has a real hard-on for anyone beneath his class. You can expect him to make "47 percent" Mitt Romney look like St. Francis by comparison.
I expect him to make Hilary Clinton into another Yulia Tymoshenko, but don't look for an Amerisquare reolt to come to her rescue.
"I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!
But you predicted the GOP would be toast this time... The end of the GOP... How did that work out?
I miscalculated.
But a better candidate from the democrats would have done it.
Most people in this country do not favor Trump. Unfortunately a vast amount don't vote. That's the problem. A lack of engagement was fatal for the democrats. The turn-out in the end really wasn't that good. It was in fact sharply down as in contrast to other years.
This year.. 59 million a piece. Obama received nearly 10 million more votes in 2008 than Hillary did in 2016. Yet we supposedly have a lot more voters now.
Stop trying to corner me.
For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)
The voting totals are interesting. It appears to be a vote (by staying home) against Hillary as a candidate by former Obama supporters who wouldn't support Hillary. Moreso than anything Trump did.
(The Republican side of things is harder to pin down. How many traditional Rs stayed home or voted 3rd party, and how many new Trump who otherwise wouldn't have voted for traditional Rs?)
Gian... You keep making "predictions" as if they will be fact.
Your track record so far isn't too good.
The fact is, we don't know how things will turn out. Hell, Trump may not be so bad, or he could be terrible. Time will tell.
But your predictions which have been proved oh so wrong in the past are simply your opinions, and not fact or reality.
And you wishing 20% unemployment on an entire region of the country, when in most cases 45% or more of the people voted for your candidate simply shows your true colors. You claim that Trump is the candidate of hate, but here you are wishing pain and suffering on people... claiming THEY deserve it.
Who is the hateful one now?
I will agree to disagree and let this go. I understand I miscalculated, but democrats still had more votes. And even McCain had slightly more votes than Trump.
They voted for Trump potentially causing damage to this country. Reap what you sow.
For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)
They voted for Trump potentially causing damage to this country. Reap what you sow.
But what about the 45% of the people in the region that voted for Hillary... do THEY deserve your hate as well?
Do they deserve the pain and suffering? Frankly, nobody deserves it. The fact that you claim they DESERVE it pretty much shows your true colors.
Feel free to call Trump the candidate of hate, but don't forget to look in the mirror to see what hate looks like.
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I'm happy you and the Ruskis won't be throwing nukes at each other.
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