Hillary Clinton, the Goldwater Girls and Margaret Sanger

[kentonio]

Wait. What?

Yep, not widely known but she really hated abortion. A huge reason for her determination to introduce family planning was to remove the necessity for abortion.

[Ben Kenobi]

Man, Kentonio is lying through his posterior here. Planned Parenthood is the largest provider of abortion. Sanger was a huge abortion supporter.

[Ben Kenobi]

The fact you hate Sanger so much is actually quite bizarre. On one hand she supported eugenics so as a deaf person I can understand the hate, but she also deeply disliked abortion, so you might actually have got along.

Read Buck vs Bell, which she supported, and you would understand my hatred of the woman goes far beyond anything she did with Planned Parenthood. You're basically saying that Hitler was a vegetarian so Jews would like him because they too have restrictive dietary laws.

[Ming]

Man, Kentonio is lying through his posterior here. Planned Parenthood is the largest provider of abortion.

And they provide many other services besides abortion... The abortion number ranges from 3% of services up to 94% depending on which biased source/figures being used.
Most experts think it's somewhere between 17% to 50%.

Sanger was a huge abortion supporter.

Cite please....

[Ben Kenobi]

Again, they are the number one abortion provider. They do more abortions than anyone else in America. I've already provided the citations on Sanger showing that she supported abortion and contraception.

[Ming]

I've already provided the citations on Sanger showing that she supported abortion and contraception.

Gee, I keep looking through the thread and all I see from you is one quote that doesn't support your position?

[Ben Kenobi]

The human weeds quote? I'm not sure why you think that's contrary to my position.

[Ming]

The human weeds quote? I'm not sure why you think that's contrary to my position.

That "quote" has been debunked many times... Every fact check site says she didn't say it.
Here is one example so you don't ask for a cite... http://www.snopes.com/margaret-sanger-weeds/

You have been called on the quote already, but you keep posting as if you still believe it's true... which it isn't.

[Lorizael]

Many people like to complain about Donald Trump being racist but they may not be aware that Hillary Clinton is racist as well.

Just realized that OP does not deny that Trump is racist.

[-Jrabbit]

No, quite the opposite. Rather seems to embrace it.

[Berzerker]

Trump is old school NYC/NJ so to an extent his language reflects that environment back in the 60s and 70s, but he's got many black and latino friends. Far more than me anyway, I had quite a few back in California but nothing compared to Trump. So I dont think the racism label applies. As for the followers of Islam, that aint a race, its an ideology.

I hate to admit it, but I think Putin will grab more of Europe with Trump (or Johnson) in the WH

[-Jrabbit]

How can you possibly think the racist label doesn't apply to Trump???

[Lorizael]

I think it's undeniable that Trump says racist things and wants to enact racist policies, but I'm not at all sure he holds racist beliefs. That is, deep in his heart of hearts, I don't know that Trump harbors negative attitudes toward other races, or if he's just an opportunistic rabble-rouser. This distinction is of no importance to me or my vote.

[-Jrabbit]

It's undeniable that Trump says racist things and wants to enact racist policies...

If he is willing to say racist things (which he does) and wants to enact racist policies (which he does), he's a racist. Q.E.D.

That's his starting point, and there is no excusing it. At all. Ever. For any reason. I'm mystified as to why you thing there's some fine distinction to be made based on your (frankly bizarre) supposition that it might just be an act.

WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP MAKING EXCUSES FOR THIS FASCIST BLOWHARD?

[Aeson]

Well it does make a difference as far as what we can expect from Trump ... because if true he will do whatever he thinks is going to help him most, whether it's racist or not. An ideological racist is going to stick with the racism.