Hillary Clinton, the Goldwater Girls and Margaret Sanger

[ZEE]

If I see one moar fact being poasted in this thrade I am going to send a PM to Ming.

Let's get back on track here people.

[Newflash]

FACT +1

[kentonio]

From the Washington Post.

Sanger was a massive supporter of eugenics.

Which is completely different from being a racist. Other supporters of eugenics included Roosevelt, Winston Churchill, HG Wells and George Bernard Shaw. Just so we can be equally outraged.

[The Mad Monk]

To which I must refer to...

Look, it's difficult to admire someone from the past without admiring someone who had terrible opinions/did terrible things. The founding fathers supported/tacitly approved of slavery. Great generals from history were usually butchers. Einstein bribed his first wife into divorce with money he didn't have. Et cetera. Can't we all just take as given that when we say, "Person A did cool thing X," we're only talking about X?

[The Mad Monk]

[ZEE]

FACT +1

NEWSFLASH IS BACK, YOU GUISE!

You are probably wondering what happened to all your poasts. We had an... accident a few months ago. We call it Groundhog Day. Entire forum was reset back to February. I lost 300 poasts and about 50 'thanks.'

You have had a rough start here. First your name, now your poasts... yet you still return.

ONE OF US. ONE OF US.

[The Mad Monk]

Um...that's Newflash. Not Newsflash.

[ZEE]

He mistyped his name when he made his account. To me he will always be Newsflash.

If you weren't a n00b you'd know that.

[giblets]

Everyone who voted for Goldwater was racist. FACT.

lol

[Elok]

Which is completely different from being a racist. Other supporters of eugenics included Roosevelt, Winston Churchill, HG Wells and George Bernard Shaw. Just so we can be equally outraged.

I don't know about Roosevelt, but Churchill, Wells and Shaw could all be pretty frigging repugnant.

[kentonio]

I don't know about Roosevelt, but Churchill, Wells and Shaw could all be pretty frigging repugnant.

They all could. I think you can pretty much guarantee though that Churchill is one of Ben's personal heroes.

[OneFootInTheGrave]

You live in the Balkans. Would you like to continue?

It was a statement of fact, do you insinuate that she is also from Kenya?

[The Mad Monk]

Why would I do that? I also gave a statement of fact. Are you reading something into it?

[N35t0r]

Yeah, eugenics can be pretty deplorable, but not necessarily racist.

[Ben Kenobi]

They all could. I think you can pretty much guarantee though that Churchill is one of Ben's personal heroes

But not Wells or Shaw, eh? I admit I like Churchill, but some of his works are a mixed bag.