Germany shocked by Cologne New Year gang assaults on women

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

SOrry but this is a bull **** response.

Yes, we have more than enough problems with sexual violence.
No, we don't need additional problems so please don't marginalize it.

And no, I don't think we should start deporting all refugees now. Only those that clearly did not get the message.

I've no idea what you're talking about.

[Dinner]

Well, I include the countries where the refugees are from in this list ...
if all of these *******s from the cologne incidents would have learned from their childhood on to respect the european women on the same level as other muslim men (instead of putting them into the drawer "infidel european sluts") those attacks would never have taken place

It will never happen. The idea that they are superior because of their religion is taught by their religion and they believe god said so. You can try to tell them orherwise but they see that as you, a man, vs god. Guess who's word they will go with?

You just aren't going to change that outlook.

[Kidlicious]

Come to think about it, i made a mistake here. It's not a muslim culture, it's in any pre-industrial age culture.

Take feudal times or ancient times, who is working there? Slaves or serfs, the lowest possible class. Who is not working? Slave owners, aristocracy. So, naturally, people from feudal cultures will be unwilling to integrate into modern society as low-class, workers, if they're already high-class, not workers. That's just what their instincts tell them - you need to work only if you can't coerce others to do the work for you. Even monkeys know it.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Are organized rape gangs a common occurrence in European countries?

Well, the article you quoted in the opening post details one reported rape, and doesn't go into detail into the level of organisation. That leaves me wanting to compare statistics. It's only the immigrant angle that stops this looking like an average rowdy New Years Eve to me. I have no difficulty believing that there could be 80 sexual assaults/muggings (no breakdown of figures between the two are provided) in a city the size of Cologne on that night.

[DinoDoc]

Well, the article you quoted in the opening post details one reported rape,

Cologne New Year violence cases up to 379
Unprecedented sex harassment in Helsinki at New Year, Finnish police report

That leaves me wanting to compare statistics.

I would be interested in finding out what you find. It would be illuminating to find out if what happened in Cologne and other European cities is just another normal day. We could pass that information onto foreign tourists if this is normal European behavior.

[Kidlicious]

I doubt if there are that many German born perps. That's coming from someone very sympathetic to feminism.

[Proteus_MST]

It will never happen. The idea that they are superior because of their religion is taught by their religion and they believe god said so. You can try to tell them orherwise but they see that as you, a man, vs god. Guess who's word they will go with?

You just aren't going to change that outlook.

We have lots of muslims (of second and more generation) that live a western lifestyle (and which also let their daughters live like other german girls, without forcing them to dress in a certain way, wearing a headscarf, or forcing them into a marriage).
Actually Game of Thrones watchers know one of them ... Sibel Kekilli, who plays the role of Shae. She is the daughter of a married couple who emigrated from Turkey. Didn´t keep her from living a western lifestyle and even starring in porn movies

And that´s the case for a lot of citizens who originate from the muslim religion.

It seems to me like there are 2 things that are most important with regards to determining whether a muslim citizen really integrates into the german/european society or not:
1. Education ... the more educated the person is/becomes, the less likely s/he will get into the grips of muslim fundamentalists/traditionalists and the more likely s/he will respect other people as equals
2. Contact outside of the muslim communities ... the more contact (in terms of friendships) a person has to regular germans, the less likely s/he will become a religiopus fundamentalist/someone who opppresses others because of religion (or sees others as less worthy because of a different religion)

Actually usually if we hear about crimes being commited because of muslim religion (for example honor killings) either one, or both of those 2 points aren´t fulfilled.

The incidents of COlogne of course clearly fall into these categories ... those refugees who took part in the mob at cologne surely are topo short in germany to have all too much contact to the regular german population (and get used to their weays) ... and I also guess that those idiots aren´t part of the educated class of the countries they originated from

[rah]

It's the same as, like, women are a security problem in certain sensitive job positions - if they fall in love they'll betray a country, and that's why women are almost never employed as standalone spies. That's just how things are. It's a reality.

Could you get anymore sexist. DO you actually believe that no man has ever betrayed anything over love? What an idiot.

[Dinner]

Well, the article you quoted in the opening post details one reported rape, and doesn't go into detail into the level of organisation. That leaves me wanting to compare statistics. It's only the immigrant angle that stops this looking like an average rowdy New Years Eve to me. I have no difficulty believing that there could be 80 sexual assaults/muggings (no breakdown of figures between the two are provided) in a city the size of Cologne on that night.

There were actually two rapes and 379 sexual assualts as of this morning's count. That was in Cologne alone with half a dozen German cities total experiencing muslim rape gangs along with one city in Austria, one in Finland, and one in Switzerland. It is a very wide spread problem and it has deep rootes in the Arab world as previous posters said.

Oh, and let us not forget all the robbery, pickpocketing, and theft which these same asylum seekers committed when they were not raping or sexually assualting white women. The cover up by authorities to be politically correct is almost as bad as these criminal mobs.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

There were actually two rapes and 379 sexual assualts as of this morning's count

Dinodoc's link details 379 reports of violence, not 379 reports of sexual assaults. Please post your source.

[Proteus_MST]

Dinodoc's link details 379 reports of violence, not 379 reports of sexual assaults. Please post your source.

Yes, the 379 reports of crimes are all reports, including picking pockets and similar things ... "only" 40 % of them are about sexual violence

https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/koeln-silvester-103.html

Meanwhile the police in cologne have identified a certain 40 men strong group of offenders from camera records which they call the "sportsman" group because of the muscular build of all members.
Those had posted themselves directly at the entrance of the main station, were shielded by colleagues from contact with trhe police and were most likely those who were most involved in the cases of sexual molestation. People who wanted to enter or leave the main station had to pass through a narrow alley between the members of this "sportsman group" (so that they had lots of opportunitys to molestate women passing through, or steal things from people)

http://www.focus.de/regional/koeln/silvester-am-hauptbahnhof-in-koeln-die-ekelhafte-sportler-gruppe-raubte-und-begrabschte-frauen-systematisch_id_5198858.html

[NICE MOBIUS]

Russian doctor punches a patient to death.

According to DD, Oerdin, Kid, Ellestar (OK, maybe not Ellestar ), Ben et al, ALL Russian doctors are guilty of having a poor bedside manner...

Guys, your blind bigotry against muslims is badly betraying you with these racist outbursts and complete lies and fabrication - stop embarrassing yourselves!

[DinoDoc]

Russian doctor punches a patient to death.

According to DD, Oerdin, Kid, Ellestar (OK, maybe not Ellestar ), Ben et al, ALL Russian doctors are guilty of having a poor bedside manner...

Guys, your blind bigotry against muslims is badly betraying you with these racist outbursts and complete lies and fabrication - stop embarrassing yourselves!

#NotAllMigrants

Seriously though, this isn't an indictment of Muslims in general so much as it is an indictment of the asylum system as it exists in the EU.

PS Regarding the original question I asked in the OP: Merkel proposes tougher migrant laws

[Dinner]

They have now arrested 32 people, 22 are asylum seekers, one is a US citizen, another is an Albanian with Serbian citizenship, and the rest are illegal aliens from the mideast or North Africa.

[Kidlicious]

Russian doctor punches a patient to death.

According to DD, Oerdin, Kid, Ellestar (OK, maybe not Ellestar ), Ben et al, ALL Russian doctors are guilty of having a poor bedside manner...

Guys, your blind bigotry against muslims is badly betraying you with these racist outbursts and complete lies and fabrication - stop embarrassing yourselves!

I imagine there are many people like you in Europe.