Germany shocked by Cologne New Year gang assaults on women

[Kidlicious]

I am actually very progressive but I just recognize there are limits to what is financially possible. I would like to see a more complete welfare state but to make that viable you cannot let in millions of 3rd worlders who would love to just mooch off the system. You have to limit it to people who are from here and who have paid into the system for generations otherwise you end up with too many takers and not enough makers. The more generous the welfare state the more strict the restrictions need to be and that is just financial reality.

That's not actually progressive then, because there's already too many immigrants. There aren't jobs or housing for them. So what you're calling for is not what progressives are calling for. So why do you call yourself a progressive? You aren't fooling people.

[Sava]

It's denial. He knows Republicans suck but there isn't a left leaning party that is openly hostile to Islam or immigrants.

Poor oerdin

His fellow racists won't accept him due to his liberalish views

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[Kidlicious]

He doesn't understand that immigrants aren't the real problem. The real problem is progressives. That's why I eventually turned from that side. Progressives are going to be progressives. They can't be reasoned with. You can't expect them to understand that the system can only afford so much welfare.

[Kidlicious]

Liberal is a mental disorder Dinner. Can't you tell that when they call you a racist? But you call me a racist. What's up with that?

[Dinner]

It's denial. He knows Republicans suck but there isn't a left leaning party that is openly hostile to Islam or immigrants.

Poor oerdin

His fellow racists won't accept him due to his liberalish views

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Do you ever do anything other than troll? On the upside the US would indeed be better served if it had viable 3rd parties. More options and competition in the political sphere would really improve things.

[Kidlicious]

It's not a troll. He thinks your a racist. You're lying to yourself.

[Bereta_Eder]

And I'm not a leftist hypocrite. I'm merely pointing out, as has been proved on numerous occasions in this thread, that your little bigoted clique is guilty of spreading lies and misinformation about the scale of what has happened.

Not to mention the fact that you're assuming lots about my opinions that are simply not true - like being happy to let in a huge tide of migrants like some giant open door policy - which couldn't be further from the truth!

The problem is that it's right-wing racist dickheads like you that have caused all the problems in the first place, like invading Iraq, causing the overthrow of Gaddafi and destabilising Syria. All of this has contributed to opening the floodgates of a mass of refugees and economic migrants to overwhelm European borders and controls that are simply not equipped to deal with such a huge mass of humanity.

Part of that problem is the still-birth of the European border agency, Frontex, that has been badly hamstrung by a host of right-wing European governments such as my own who simply don't want to deal with immigrants full-stop, but instead of providing a fair share of money dealing with the problem in, say Italy and Greece, withhold money and look after their own borders (UK, Hungary etc). It's supposed to be a European UNION - instead it is everyone for themselves with Sweden the latest to implement border controls!

The obvious answer is to strengthen Europe's outer borders by properly funding them. Putting in proper asylum/immigration checks and making sure as few economic migrants slip through the net as possible. Reception centres should be at the point of entry and if you fail, you're deported, that sort of stuff. The centres should be properly staffed to ensure a quick turnaround. Common sense stuff instead of pissing money away re-erecting borders throughout the whole of Europe as it seems to be going now...

So **** off Oerdin, you're a racist bigot whose beliefs have tainted your assumptions of other people!

Well said

[Bereta_Eder]

As for the current thing, it is no secret that fundies don't want muslims going to Europe.
Seeing as this was coordinated, it is just another facet of this wish

[Dinner]

The Finish police certainly disagree.

Wdit: Ahh, you editted so now we are in agreement. I guess earlier was a typo?

[Bereta_Eder]

The group attacks targeting women on New Year’s Eve in the German city of Cologne were “coordinated and premeditated,” said the German Minister of Justice in Sunday's edition of Bild magazine.

http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/German-Minister-New-Years-Sexual-Attacks-Were-Premeditated-20160110-0012.html

[Bereta_Eder]

I am actually very progressive but I just recognize there are limits to what is financially possible. I would like to see a more complete welfare state but to make that viable you cannot let in millions of 3rd worlders who would love to just mooch off the system. You have to limit it to people who are from here and who have paid into the system for generations otherwise you end up with too many takers and not enough makers. The more generous the welfare state the more strict the restrictions need to be and that is just financial reality.

I agree that 3rd worlders like you should never be allowed in Syria and Iraq

And you're wrong. Without immigrants there's no social state

[DinoDoc]

As for the current thing, it is no secret that fundies don't want muslims going to Europe.
Seeing as this was coordinated, it is just another facet of this wish

The group attacks targeting women on New Year’s Eve in the German city of Cologne were “coordinated and premeditated,” said the German Minister of Justice in Sunday's edition of Bild magazine.


http://www.telesurtv.net/english/new...0110-0012.html

[Dinner]

I agree. Greece should let in all the Albanians and Turks then tell us how things go.

[Proteus_MST]

The group attacks targeting women on New Year’s Eve in the German city of Cologne were “coordinated and premeditated,” said the German Minister of Justice in Sunday's edition of Bild magazine.


http://www.telesurtv.net/english/new...0110-0012.html

One should add that it is only hnis personal opinion (with which I agree however).
One should also add that "planned" doesn´t mean planned by ISIS or some other (terrorist) organization,
but rather planned like an appointment among individuals ...
i.e. those people probably used telephones (or social media on the internet) in order to arrange a joint gang rape and robbery party, "just to have some fun"

[NICE MOBIUS]

I already know what I am. Oerdin doesn't want anyone to judge him. He wants me to receive all the shaming and bull**** so he doesn't want to be associated with me. That's what you call calling me a dick. And I couldn't care less.

Yeah, Oerdin is definitely in denial. Next will be self-loathing. He'll still be able to vote Democrat because Hillary's not that far removed from Republican ideologies herself - she's got the lying part down as an art form already.

It's exactly the kind of **** that causes 1000 rapists to go on a rampage in Europe, and it's what causes this insane reaction by Europeans like Mobius who is actually blaming the right for this ****.

Cause and effect. Right-wing forces invaded Iraq, helped to topple Gaddafi and are destabilising Syria. Europe would not be having this refugee crisis, exacerbated by opportunistic economic migrants, overloading our borders otherwise.

Of course you're too stupid to make the connection and Oerdin is too racist to care.