'70 bodies' found in abandoned lorry in Austria

[giblets]

Because countries like Jordan and Lebanon closed their borders to more refugees; because after, what is it, four years of this conflict, it's only getting worse; because it's clear that the West doesn't want to lift a finger for fear of supporting the 'wrong type of rebel'; because ISIS is still getting stronger within Syria; because Assad is commensurately getting weaker...

Basically those refugees already in Turkey, or escaping northern Syria have finally got to the point where they see no end in sight and have lost...

...HOPE...

Wait, I thought you were against Western interventions? Or you're in favor if it's against ISIS?

[Bereta_Eder]

austria said that since greece has the largest GDP/capita expences on military it should go to syria and sort it out
slovakia won't accept BUT christian refugees.
poland says um, we're expecting ukranian refugees.
I love the EU it's so ridiculous comedy material every day. what a pity.
cameron is a dickhead but after talking with a french girl that told me that actually the brits are far more tolerant to immigrants than french, I won't scold him too much

[pchang]

Another vehicle found with refugees, but this time, they got there in time.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34095949

[NICE MOBIUS]

Wait, I thought you were against Western interventions? Or you're in favor if it's against ISIS?

Just think: without Western intervention, we wouldn't have ISIS.

Now we just need a time machine.

[giblets]

What do you want the West to do to stop ISIS?

[ricketyclik]

As Mobius says... the genie's out of the bottle, thanks to the Iraq invasion. Best to learn from our mistakes and stop getting involved.

[kentonio]

That was the old Al Qaeda in Saudi. There was a brief period of attacks against westerners and the Saudis struck down - hard!

No, I'm talking historically.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alasta...b_5717157.html

Also, ISIS could never happen in Saudi because, A) they crushed the previous Al Qaeda incarnation, and B) well, the nearest thing to ISIS in Saudi is the government of Saudi!

ISIS is already happening in Saudi Arabia. The government are apparently terrified because to ISIS they are the personification of Wahhabism gone corrupt.

[Bereta_Eder]

You need a total breakdown of central authority for groups like ISIS to form. That was the case of Iraq. Not so in Libya because it actually now has two (limited) opposing govs

But I think that the serious countries of europe were against the american bloodlust of Iraq because of ethical reasons not because they predicted the huge influx of syrian refugees (they aren't THAT smart)

[Dinner]

Europe is so ****ed.

[Bereta_Eder]

Yes but not due to syrians

[kentonio]

Europe is so ****ed.

Why? You think our brand of liberalism, alcoholism and slightly ****ty weather will prove irresistible to the Islamic invaders?

[dannubis]

Europe is so ****ed.

Why ?

You seem to do well with all your black ghettos...

[ricketyclik]

You need a total breakdown of central authority for groups like ISIS to form. That was the case of Iraq. Not so in Libya because it actually now has two (limited) opposing govs

But I think that the serious countries of europe were against the american bloodlust of Iraq because of ethical reasons not because they predicted the huge influx of syrian refugees (they aren't THAT smart)

People did ask what would fill the resulting power vacuum with tones of dark foreboding.

[Dr Strangelove]

I thought that ISIS formed in Syria?

Wait, it turns out it was actually organized in Jordan in 1999. It was involved in the assassination of an American diplomat in 2002, then moved to Iraq before the war. It was originally known as Jamarat al_Tawhid wal-Jihad, changed its name to Al Qaeda in Iraq in 2004, then became Islamic State of Iraq in 2006 and finally Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant in 2014.

[The Mad Monk]

Why ?

You seem to do well with all your black ghettos...

Not as well as you all did with your jewish ghettos...