Christian business owners . . .

[Imran Siddiqui]

BK is obviously not one. I'd say Imran is in spirit. He could be more of a full fledged Christian if he went to an Orthodox church (if he doesn't already).

You know I'm a Lutheran

[Sava]

You know I'm a Lutheran

That's okay. Some of my best friends are Lutheran. My father was Lutheran!

[Imran Siddiqui]

They believe in immaculate conception.

I only point this out to indicate that you don't really comprehend the religion you are speaking about. No, the Mormons do not believe in the Immaculate Conception. Only the Catholics and Orthodox do. Do you mean the virginal conception of Jesus instead?

The Book of Mormon is about Christ visiting the new world and is literally proclaimed as another testament of Jesus Christ.

Exactly. Just as the New Testament makes Christians a new religion, even though they claim that they affirm the Old Testament (and originally didn't consider themselves a "new religion", just a fulfillment of the current one), the new testament of Mormonism makes them a new religion.

[Aeson]

Professing to Mormonism cancels that out.

"one who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ" - as quoted by Sava

There is no such qualification within that definition. Mormons profess belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ. The dictionary definition you chose applies. Deal with it.

[Imran Siddiqui]

My father was Lutheran!

Where did you go wrong

[Sava]

"one who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ" - as quoted by Sava

There is no such qualification within that definition. Mormons profess belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ. The dictionary definition you chose applies. Deal with it.

It's one or the other. You can't have it both ways. I didn't make the rules.

[Kidlicious]

That's okay. Some of my best friends are Lutheran. My father was Lutheran!

I have friends that are liberals. That doesn't make it ok.

[Elok]

Imran, the Immaculate Conception is a Catholic vice. We want no truck with it.

[Aeson]

I only point this out to indicate that you don't really comprehend the religion you are speaking about. No, the Mormons do not believe in the Immaculate Conception. Only the Catholics and Orthodox do. Do you mean the virginal conception of Jesus instead?

I applied the term for the sake of brevity. Mormons don't use the term at all, and generally don't use a term for it ... which makes it harder to discuss. The details aren't really pertinent to the issue being discussed, which is whether Mormons profess to believe the teachings of Christ or not. I simply used it and the littany of other claims to show that Mormons believe Christ is divine ... since Sava was going on about how they follow Joseph Smith, not Jesus Christ.

Exactly. Just as the New Testament makes Christians a new religion, even though they claim that they affirm the Old Testament (and originally didn't consider themselves a "new religion", just a fulfillment of the current one), the new testament of Mormonism makes them a new religion.

They are a Christian by dictionary definition of the term.

You're just doing the same thing BK is, as well as the Mormons Sava quote. Sliding scales and arbitrary delineations so as to claim your version of the fairy tale is superior to their's.

[Aeson]

It's one or the other. You can't have it both ways. I didn't make the rules.

Yep. One way is to not profess belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ. The other is to profess belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ.

Mormons do the latter, which is why the term applies to them via the dictionary definition you chose to post.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Imran, the Immaculate Conception is a Catholic vice. We want no truck with it.

****, sorry. My bad on that one (I should have realized since y'all don't have Original Sin).

I applied the term for the sake of brevity. Mormons don't use the term at all, and generally don't use a term for it ... which makes it harder to discuss. The details aren't really pertinent to the issue being discussed,

Because you still don't understand what the immaculate conception is?

They are a Christian by dictionary definition of the term.

And the dictionary is wrong.

Sliding scales and arbitrary delineations so as to claim your version of the fairy tale is superior to their's.

Not at all - this is just your pathetic strawman as you can't comprehend that people can call someone not a Christian, yet still not proclaim judgement on that inclusion or exclusion.

[Sava]

Yep. One way is to not profess belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ. The other is to profess belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ.

Mormons do the latter, which is why the term applies to them via the dictionary definition you chose to post.

If Mormons are Christian, then I'm Jewish.

It's that simple.

[giblets]

If Mormons are Christian, then I'm Jewish.

It's that simple.

are you religious?

[Sava]

Many believe I am God.

[Imran Siddiqui]

That's ok, most Jews aren't either .