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  • I was under the impression that poor people working long hours tended to do so at multiple different jobs, i.e. get home from the gas station, two-hour nap, head off to night security work.
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    • That is my impression as well.
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      • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
        That's a direct consequence of Obamacare's health insurance requirement for people working a certain number of hours. Good job democrats.
        Hey dumbass, corporations have been doing this for a LONG time. It's nothing new.
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        • Originally posted by Donegeal View Post
          Hey dumbass, corporations have been doing this for a LONG time. It's nothing new.
          I can tell you're going to be entertaining if Walker wins the Presidency.
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          • The general public is really stupid, so the chances of him winning are pretty good.
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            • Speaking of this little ****stick, he did it again: He ran his re-election campaign on not approving right-to-work bills should they be passed, but has now said he'd sign it as soon as it hits his desk.
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              • Originally posted by Donegeal View Post
                Speaking of this little ****stick, he did it again: He ran his re-election campaign on not approving right-to-work bills should they be passed, but has now said he'd sign it as soon as it hits his desk.
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                • Originally posted by Elok View Post
                  I was under the impression that poor people working long hours tended to do so at multiple different jobs, i.e. get home from the gas station, two-hour nap, head off to night security work.
                  Like most things, there isn't a simple answer. Yes you have people working multiple jobs, but you also have a huge number of people working a single shift based job where their hours are much longer than someone with a decent salary in an office somewhere.

                  Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                  I never said they were lazy, Kentonio, just that the long-hour-workers are generally salaried professionals.
                  Long hour workers are not 'generally' salaried professionals, those are the exceptions not the rule. How many people do you think there are out there working long shifts or multiple jobs doing hard manual work for every one of those doctors or lawyers who are pulling long hours? Here's a hint, as usual there are an awful lot more of the poor than there are of the wealthy.

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                  • So is Walker still under investigation for campaign finance fraud or have Republicans killed the bipartisan state election comission and replaced it with a partisan kangaroo court?
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                    • Originally posted by Donegeal View Post
                      Hey dumbass, corporations have been doing this for a LONG time. It's nothing new.
                      Except they have changed thanks to Obamacare.

                      The one I work for, for instance, used to offer part timers health insurance. They can't anymore because the cost went up too much... why did the cost go up so much? Because of Obamacare.

                      There are other reasons too such as their definition of "part time" versus the Obamacare definition etc, but the long and short of it was that they had to kick a bunch of part timers off health insurance because Obamacare made it cost inefffective.
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                      • Originally posted by kentonio View Post
                        Long hour workers are not 'generally' salaried professionals, those are the exceptions not the rule.
                        Most salaried people I know work longer than 40 hour weeks. Most wage employees, when they do work longer than 40 hours, get overtime.

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                        • Originally posted by kentonio View Post
                          You're just being an ass for the sake of being an ass. As for 'ridiculous nonsense' if you think that the unemployment system in the UK is flawless and that jobseekers are all dedicated workers hard done by by a cruel system, then you're not only stunningly naive but also a ****ing idiot. You sound exactly like the kind of upper middle class, ivory tower Guardian writers who graduate from Cambridge and then sit in their nice offices in London writing about the suffering of the working classes.

                          .....

                          Oh and that incidentally, was an example of why when you talk to someone like a **** you can expect them to reply in kind.
                          i have provided statistical evidence which backs up my views; you have provided anecdotes, together with a load of invective against the unemployed, and then got in huff because i wouldn't take your 'arguments' seriously. it's hard to have a debate when one participant, instead of providing evidence, insists that his anecdotes and unfounded assertions be treated with equal weight. but anyway, perhaps it's best we leave it there for now.
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                          • Originally posted by Donegeal View Post
                            Speaking of this little ****stick, he did it again: He ran his re-election campaign on not approving right-to-work bills should they be passed, but has now said he'd sign it as soon as it hits his desk.
                            Right to work is ****ing awesome

                            News flash: the American public will never punish him for going after unions because nobody likes unions anymore except members of unions.

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                            • Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
                              Most salaried people I know work longer than 40 hour weeks. Most wage employees, when they do work longer than 40 hours, get overtime.
                              Does US law require anyone being paid by the hour to receive overtime pay if their hours are longer than 40 per week? Because that certainly isn't the case in the UK for agency workers.

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                              • Originally posted by kentonio View Post
                                Does US law require anyone being paid by the hour to receive overtime pay if their hours are longer than 40 per week? Because that certainly isn't the case in the UK for agency workers.
                                Yes. I believe there are exceptions, for example the healthcare industry I think, but virtually all wage employees are required to be paid 1.5x their regular wage for any work over 40 hours a week.
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