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[Serb]

That was my message to America.

[Serb]

The interest on the debt is more telling than the amount.

That would matter, if not the dynamics. The fact is that Obama has doubled your national debt within 8 years. That is just a fact.
Your debt is just keep growing, no matter what, year after year - and you can do nothing about that, but to ignite another great war (that's the only recipe you Imperialist greedy butchers always had/have/will and the reason why you lie about us non-stop 24/7 in your propaganda - you have already marked us as your enemy ('cause you always were a Russofobes, the whole West), but you have picked a wrong guy, really, you have no chance vs. us, we will just have to kill you at the end).

As long as there are buyers at interest < inflation there's no problem with debt as it can be refinanced essentially at a profit.

Ok! So start repaying it, instead of borrowing more and more like a drug addict.

Also interesting is where the exposure is. Those who hold US debt lose if there is a default or massive devaluation of the dollar.

It's better to heal the cancer, than to live with it in fear of medical operation, because if you don't heal it, one day it will kill you for sure, sooner or later.

Every bobble blows sooner or later.

[Serb]

Well, I have to admit that I have been hearing about Russia developing new nukes during the last 10 years ...

Not only nukes, but all kinds of military hardware. We are 10-15 years ahead of the West in the most military fields. Nukes are just the field where we are ahead of the West for an half of a century. That is just fact. You want to check it out - be our guest.

but not about the USA developing ones.

Sure, 'cause they were busy robbing the World and training and arming their military for "punishment operations" vs. another natives, not vs. the final stand vs. a true opponent.
They thought we are dead already after 1991 or will die slowly.
But, Russia never dies



And now we are back, as always.
We are always back when the World is in deep sh!t.

That's our historical mission, though a hard one, a bloody one and a sorrow one. But we don't have any other option, 'cause that's just us - we can't tolerate injustice forever. The most thing we hate is injustice, when the murderer calls himself a savior of his slain victims.

Go ahead - accuse me of myself being a nazi who talks about Russians being exceptional. We are not exceptional. We are internationalists. And we have Christianity in our souls (even in my badly rotten and corrupted soul I still have the Christ and will never lose him till my last breath). We are a country of more than 150 different people with whom we have always lived fine, in harmony, in one state.
And they are all Russians, be them Tartars, Chechens or Bashkirs - that's how you see us - for you all the inhabitants of the former USSR are Russians even if they are Georgians or Uzbeks or Jews, whatever.

And that is correct. We are all Russians, regardless of our ethnicity or religion.

There is a difference between the West and the Russian paradigms.
For Russia: everyone is strong, but we are stronger (and their strength make us stronger).
For the West: everyone is weak and that makes us a strongest one.

Which, coupled with all of their last wars of aggression (and their ukrainian landgrab) rather proves, that the russians (at least under Putin) have returned to their past Megapower delusions (well, not all of them I guess, aside from the ultranationalists and warmongers, like Serb, there surely are enough russians who would just wish to return to the years of cooperation with the rest of the world ... before Putin (But I guess many of those people remain quiet, out of fear of becoming the next critics of Kremlin/Putin, who get killed under strange circumstances))

Dude, you have not seen a Russian ultranationalist then!
Serb is just an ordinary Russian, who represents 90% of its population. Who sends you a simple message:

the Russians don't want war, but if you dare to start it again - we will beat you to death without any hesitation.

I hate Russian ultranationalists, who represent 1% of our population more than you do, 'cause they are the same nazis as yours.

Although I guess it doesn't matter whether the USA or USSR develope new ones.
They already now have so many that they can kill each other many times over. The result will be desastrous for both sides

Though the american hardware is rusty and obsolete in comparison with our new and shiny self-defense toys, I have to admit that even a rusty rifle kills.

So, once again - let's talk. That would be better for the humanity. But stop lying first.

[Serb]

All we need is you (the West) talk to us honestly like a man talks to a man, eye to eye without any bullsh!t.

[Serb]

And trust me, that is the better way to deal with problems and our common accusations and so forth. When two men just discuss and tell their point of view to each other and hear each other, instead of shouting, in most of the cases they just shake hands and become buddies after the talk. Otherwise they go nuts and start to fight. That's from my personal experience. The best battles I have won in my life - I won with my words, not with my punches or kicks.
And there were no loosers in those battles only a winners.



That's how I meet my friend, whom I ever backed-up in our further fights and who ever backed-up my back. But, still - our best common fight was when 2 of us were vs. 6. Though in the first round that was a draw, when that was 2 vs. 2. They have called a back-up and have lost in the end. That was something. They flee like pussies, not that I've never seen such picture before, I did, but not in a situation of 2 vs. 6.
A couple of weeks ago we were 2 vs. 2. In a toilet of night club. That was quick Though we had to run from the place in hurry.

Not that I expect you can get that.

[Aeson]

That would matter, if not the dynamics. The fact is that Obama has doubled your national debt within 8 years. That is just a fact.

Facts can be misleading if they are used out of context. Obama inherited a recession and 2 wars from Bush, much of the debt increase can be attributed to that. We now have no major wars, unemployment is down to 5%, and the economy is growing ... if slowly.

Your debt is just keep growing, no matter what, year after year - and you can do nothing about that, but to ignite another great war (that the only recipe you Imperialist greedy butchers always had and the reason why you lie about us non-stop 24/7 in your propaganda - you have already marked us as your enemy ('cause you always were a Russofobes, the whole West), but you have picked a wrong guy, really, you have no chance vs. us, we will just have to kill you at the end).

It's not a foregone conclusion. Clinton + Republican congress was able to run surpluses. It can be done again.

Wars are actually a big part of the problem. A great war wouldn't help at all. Default (or devaluation) is much simpler. If the US did ever default, it would suck for a lot of countries ... but no need for war.

Ok! So start repaying it, instead of borrowing more and more like a drug addict.

The debt is repaid as it comes due. So far the US has been able to honor it's debt, and the confidence in it's ability to do so is why interest rates are so low.

Every bobble blows sooner or later.

Yes, and we've survived the last one already.

[Serb]

Facts can be misleading if they are used out of context. Obama inherited a recession and 2 wars from Bush, much of the debt increase can be attributed to that. We now have no major wars, unemployment is down to 5%, and the economy is growing ... if slowly.

Well, good luck, if you say so! I honestly wish you your national debt start decreasing, but the reality tells me its growing out of proportion year after year.

It's not a foregone conclusion. Clinton + Republican congress was able to run surpluses. It can be done again.

And how exactly they have been able to run surpluses? The fact is that every year you are just increasing the limit of your national debt in Congress, if you call that handling a situation, ok! Keep going this way!

Wars are actually a big part of the problem. A great war wouldn't help at all. Default (or devaluation) is much simpler. If the US did ever default, it would suck for a lot of countries ... but no need for war.

Sure, the explosion of your bubble will affect the whole World. But, you can't threat the World with that forever. It's only a matter of time, when other countries will stop investing into your papers. And that will be a disaster for you. That's why you keep slaughtering the ones who refuse to play by your rules. You have no other option, except your military power to strengthen the dollar. Your whole offer for the World is - eat that sh!t, our green paper or die.
That can't last forever.

The debt is repaid as it comes due. So far the US has been able to honor it's debt, and the confidence in it's ability to do so is why interest rates are so low.

Yeah, it's repaid, but its still growing rapidly year after year.

Yes, and we've survived the last one already.

That bubble was just one of the many bubbles that make your entire economy. Your whole economy is nothing more than a bubble. A bubble of dollar.
And you are mistaken, when you are saying you are not in war now.
You are in war. The war you have declared vs. us. That war goes on for years. And hundreds of your spec. ops people are now encircled at Aleppo and are on brink of total extermination.
Though none of your or our officials will ever admit that.

[Dinner]

Grow-up and stop being childish. Easy money often means an easy death. Start working instead of robbing. And we will be fine with each other.

The only one robbing is Russia and it is currently doing it in the Ukraine.

[Giancarlo]

That is your problem, I'm keep talking about - you are just imbeciles, who eat the sh!t of your propaganda machine over and over, if that sh!t pleases your ears. You took whatever they say to you for granted, though they never provide you any actual proofs. They just claim and you just swallow it.
From your article:


After almost two years in recession, the country's rainy day fund has shrunk to just $32.2 billion this month, according to the Russian Finance Ministry. It was $91.7 billion in September 2014, just before oil prices started to collapse.

Where is the link to the Russian Finance Ministry for proving that claim? It doesn't exist. Because that is just a blatant lie and propaganda, an another fancy brick for your fantasy universe.

The true statistic is (according to the Central Bank of Russia):
March 2014 Russian foreign-exchange reserves were 493,3 billions USD, at October 2016 they are 397,7 billions USD.

That is the official statistics, not your CNN bullsh!t.
So, all you can do with your sanctions and oil prices fall is it to deplete our cash reserves on 1/5. Keep going! And you don't even have a spark in your brain that that decline in our cash is caused by Russia repaying its foreign debts. We are just keep pulling out the strings you have been attaching to our economy for decades. And now that process is almost over. And of course you have no clue that our reserves are nothing, but growing since the start of the 2016 (the pick of drop was in Dec. 2015).






Where is America in the list of top countries who actually have money?





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Your debt is more than your GDP = non-payable.

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Nope.
It's you who is keep lying to yourself, no matter what, 'cause the remains of your brain (if you still have any) just can't accept the reality. You prefer a fantasy world instead.

Your country is bankrupt.

And that bankrupt will keep killing and rob other people until someone shoot the bank-robber. That will be us, if you don't stop your bandit behavior and start to work hard as you can (and you can - no doubt about that, you are a great country, just rotten), instead of pillaging other countries.
So, why should I care? The problems of idiots are their own problems, not mine. If America won't return to its roots, we will finish it, not that because we like it, but because you will leave us no other option. Simple as that.

This is such a crap shoot of a post. Our debt is definitely repayable, but isn't due immediately. You totally dismissed my post, yet haven't provided anything real of your own except more distortions of reality.

Your country has been in a dire recession for two years. Our economy has been growing and is financially stable.

The fact is you don't know what you are talking about and you eat up **** from your government without thinking. Your foreign reserves are being depleted at an astonishing rate and once they are gone your economy will go further into a tailspin.

[Giancarlo]

This fool knows nothing about debt. It is pretty obvious. He doesn't know how it works. He doesn't realize how bankrupt Russia is right now depleting its own foreign reserves and be believes propaganda directly from his government.

Your GDP has declined -20% in the last two to three years and all you can do is blabber about the debt of the US, which you have proved that you don't understand how it works.

[Aeson]

Serb, Clinton had years of surplus. It wasn't just raising the debt ceiling. It was US gov actually taking in more in revenue than was spent. It's not the impossible thing you are trying to pretend it is.

There are no major wars the US is involved with now. Meaning we aren't spending trillions on top of the military budget as we did in Afghanistan and Iraq. That will certainly help keep spending lower than otherwise.

[Giancarlo]

He is just jealous because his GDP has been in a tail spin since 2014. It declined -9.1% alone in 2015. And he is trying to attack our growing economy. The guy is a laugh.

[kentonio]

And we have Christianity in our souls (even in my badly rotten and corrupted soul I still have the Christ and will never lose him till my last breath).

This seems reasonable, for did not Christ say "Verily brothers, I will surely kick the **** out of you and eliminate all life on earth, you nazi scum, after I get my dick sucked and finish this bottle of vodka".

[Serb]

The only one robbing is Russia and it is currently doing it in the Ukraine.

Was it Russia who had started the mess in Ukraine?
It were you, not us.
That's your standard tactics - to start the mess and then accusing others for joining it.

[Serb]

This is such a crap shoot of a post. Our debt is definitely repayable, but isn't due immediately. You totally dismissed my post, yet haven't provided anything real of your own except more distortions of reality.

Your country has been in a dire recession for two years. Our economy has been growing and is financially stable.

The fact is you don't know what you are talking about and you eat up **** from your government without thinking. Your foreign reserves are being depleted at an astonishing rate and once they are gone your economy will go further into a tailspin.

For a brain-dead fellows (1984):



Truth is lie, lie is truth!