what happened to the großrossiya thread

[dannubis]

You could also just change your system so it becomes financially sustainable... But as you said, it's unlikely.

[Bereta_Eder]

It is financially sustainable.

[dannubis]

OK. Should I really have mentioned that bailouts are not sustainable income ?

[Bereta_Eder]

They are required though for the saveguard of the euro.

The differences are no longer that big, anyway.
Also the IMF is leaving and don't let the door hit it in the ass, just like Tsipras wanted and just as schauble was bouncing his ass on the floor (if he could) so that it would stay.

This will facilitate things even more

[Ellestar]

Ukrainian Nazis commemorate a birth of a Nazi with a torchlight march, chanting "kill Muskovites" (at 0:25 and 0:44).

But of course there are no Nazis in Ukraine, according to the West

[Dinner]

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0UG0HJ20160102

Even the head of the Greek Central Bank is telling the idiot PM to get his head out of his arse and actually start doing the promised reforms including the pension reforms. Completing that would indeed lead to normalization with the ECB once again willing to accept Greek bonds as collateral, allow Greek debt to be part of the ECB'S quantitative easing efforts, and allow banks to be recapitalized. Failing to do that means another crisis, default, and possibly Greece getting kicked out of the Euro for being a nation of lairs and deadbeats.

It is a shame the lefty PM prefers showmanship and games instead of sound government policy especially since he will crash the economy a second time in less than a year if he continues on the same path.

[PLATO]

Hey Ellestar...just curious...

Do you think that it is possible that his collaboration with the Nazi's was just an ill conceived attempt to get Ukraine out from under Soviet Domination?

Does it matter that the Nazi's arrested his "government" and placed him in a concentration camp and felt that " "... the Bandera Movement is preparing a revolt in the Reichskommissariat which has as its ultimate aim the establishment of an independent Ukraine. All functionaries of the Bandera Movement must be arrested at once and, after thorough interrogation, are to be liquidated..."?

Is it truly indicative of his political beliefs that the organization he formed to fight the Soviets in 1944 was getting support from the Nazis or was the title of Ukrainian Insurgent Army more indicative of what he believed?

Also...Is it hard to believe that Ukrainians are chanting "Kill Muscovites" when Russian troops are again occupying part of Ukraine and inciting rebellion in other parts of Ukraine?

I guess my question is: Was he more a Ukrainian Nationalist trying to get out from under Moscow's occupation than he was a Nazi and only turned to the Nazi's because of "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" theory?

I really don't know much about the man to be honest and would be interested in hearing the view of a true Russian patriot.

[Dinner]

Think of it this way, Paiktis, if you get kicked out of the Euro the resulting mass inflation because your new currency would be immediately devalued would crush the pensioners. People on fixed incomes are toast when periods of high inflation hit. So their goose is cooked if Greece's politicians refuse to honor the terms where as if they do follow the terms pension payouts will have to be reduced to reflect what the funds can actually pay but at least they will get to keep most of their pensions. Take your medicine like a big boy or jump off the cliff and destroy your country financially. The choice is yours and you guys are the only ones to blame.

Next time don't try to run an economy where 70% of the adult population works for the government.

[Bereta_Eder]

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0UG0HJ20160102

Even the head of the Greek Central Bank is telling the idiot PM to get his head out of his arse and actually start doing the promised reforms including the pension reforms. Completing that would indeed lead to normalization with the ECB once again willing to accept Greek bonds as collateral, allow Greek debt to be part of the ECB'S quantitative easing efforts, and allow banks to be recapitalized. Failing to do that means another crisis, default, and possibly Greece getting kicked out of the Euro for being a nation of lairs and deadbeats.

It is a shame the lefty PM prefers showmanship and games instead of sound government policy especially since he will crash the economy a second time in less than a year if he continues on the same path.

That sad man is a relic of the old status quo and completely discredited. He was put in place at the last minute just as the former political system was collapsing. Unfortunately, due to the constitution he cannot be replaced untill his term ends up.

We will suffer him a bit longer.

He was also instrumental in going along with schauble at the failed after failer so called "bailouts" that nearly collapsed the eurozone. He also caught ziltz nothing from the big tax evaders and of course covered all the german firms who bribed their asses off

[Bereta_Eder]

Greece getting kicked out of the Euro for being a nation of lairs and deadbeats.

I'm not to blame for you having to put severed heads to body bags because you're not fit to do anything else that matters.

[Bereta_Eder]

Think of it this way, Paiktis, if you get kicked out of the Euro the resulting mass inflation because your new currency would be immediately devalued would crush the pensioners. People on fixed incomes are toast when periods of high inflation hit. So their goose is cooked if Greece's politicians refuse to honor the terms where as if they do follow the terms pension payouts will have to be reduced to reflect what the funds can actually pay but at least they will get to keep most of their pensions. Take your medicine like a big boy or jump off the cliff and destroy your country financially. The choice is yours and you guys are the only ones to blame.

Next time don't try to run an economy where 70% of the adult population works for the government.

Lies, lies, lies.
Actually those employed by the public sector are less than those in France for example.

No shut the **** up and go get shot or something, before having no health insurance to patch you up.

Like a big boy

And make sure to say you're german when traveling abroad.

You seem to have no problem when what you perceive as "figure of authority" is lying, like for example the president of the EC.

Well, that's tough because that's not how the real world works.

Probably it's why you're such a fat waste of space working at the army morgue


Now repeat after me you pathetic swine as you put that severed head of the country you destroyed in the body bag making sure not to step on your fat lard.

Pensions will be cut by zero percent. Watch it happen. And that's because 52% of households depend on them due to the high unemployment.

Meanwhile Greece will exit the crisis with zero foreclosures of homes unlike what the other countries went and are still going through, with salaries rising and pensions higher than that of half of the EU and with everything that needs to be done to behave like human beings to our people or the EU will be toast.



Go shoot some blacks and muslims now

And don't forget that the last time you "threatened" me, 90 billions landed on our lap

[Bereta_Eder]

Actually this time around it will be even easier for two reasons:

a) most people have largely mitigated the danger of deposits being lost
b) if they think the EU is flooded with refugees, they haven't seen anything yet.

I suppose your severed head exercise, while destroying a country when you were not busy shooting each other like foam at the mouth maniacs, in a machiavelian way, is useful.

Although in the grand scheme of things you range from the beneficial to the indifferent.

That's all for now big boy. We'll talk again in april about this

[Dinner]

http://news.yahoo.com/eu-ukraine-trade-deal-comes-force-angers-moscow-044636238.html?bcmt=1451758038011-91e247c4-6810-4b70-9894-c343ebc7443c

On the topic related to Russia the EU-Ukrainian free trade agreement took effect today and the Ukrainian government has said 1/3rd of the country's agricultural producers already comply with EU standards so the Ukrainian economy really is improving quality and opening new export markets. The Russian dictator Putin announced a ban on food from the Ukraine because he is so mad they didn't want to be his slave colony. That means Russia loses yet another source for the 50%-60% of food that must be imported to Russia (since it already bans the US, EU, Turkey, Australia, Canada, and now Ukraine). Dirt poor Russians, who already spend 50% of their budget on food, can enough still higher food prices due to Putin's incompetence.

[Dinner]

Oh, fixing the foreclosure laws so that people who do not pay their mortgages actually get kicked out is also one of the required reforms. As it should be.

[Bereta_Eder]

And the truth of course is that the ukranians are dying of cold and nearly half of the urban centers can't even sustain stable electricity. The kleprocracy just got replaced with another one and with a hostile russia to boot
Also that the russian embargo to Turkey is already taking a big bite as we speak.

Meanwhile northstream between germany and russia is advancing as planned with no hindrances whatsoever, meaning energy will keep be dependend on russia with the blessings of germany