what happened to the großrossiya thread

[Sava]

if that's not the case, maybe you should express yourself better

[Dinner]

I'm skeptical about this "oerdin is racist" theory.

If you point out how the Greek government has screwed the pooch then you are racist against Greeks. If you point out Russian propaganda about a supposed US coupe is factually untrue or dare to point out how Russia is running an illegal war in the Ukraine then you are racist against Russians.

Do you see how things work in Sava's mind now? It is just babble a bunch of **** and hope some of it sticks. That is how Sava works.

[Bereta_Eder]

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he's of a kinda limited perseption on some issues and is fixed on a particular way of viewing the world. perhaps this constant reassures him.

[Sava]

Do you see how things work in Sava's mind now? It is just babble a bunch of **** and hope some of it sticks. That is how Sava works.

There's a lot more to it than that. If it were that easy, everyone would be as awesome as I am.

[Sava]

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he's of a kinda limited perseption on some issues and is fixed on a particular way of viewing the world. perhaps this constant reassures him.

I just find it weird because of his virulent anti-GOP sentiments. But I suppose even racists can hate corporate crooks and religious fundamentalists.

[Bereta_Eder]

yeah on political issues he can seem like a progressive but then let's off some off the wall racism that even hard-core bigots dare not utter.
he doesn't have a rounded ideological identity. still a good guy

[Sava]

yeah on political issues he can seem like a progressive but then let's off some off the wall racism that even hard-core bigots dare not utter.
he doesn't have a rounded ideological identity. still a good guy

well, we can agree to disagree on what constitutes a "good guy"

[Bereta_Eder]

as some person said, our relation with the "other" reflects our relation/acceptance with/of ourselves, so he's tormenting himself more than anything

[Sava]

as some person said, our relation with the "other" reflects our relation/acceptance with/of ourselves, so he's tormenting himself more than anything

maybe the self-hatred comes as a result of binge eating? weight gain?

I know normally that would be hitting below the belt, but with oerdin, I can't actually get below his belt

[onodera]

http://www.politicalforum.com/latest...r-ukraine.html

The deal he was talking about was the one hosted by France and Germany between Yanocovich and the protesters to bring about early elections. Yanocovich wanted elections delayed several months so he could solidify his position while the protesters wanted him to step down immediately. As soon as the deal was announced protesters heard about the details they got upset aND stormed several buildings causing Yanocovich to run away like a little girl.

Personally, I do think the deal for early elections was a responsible deal but the people of the Ukraine really just weren't going to accept anything less than complete removal of the corrupt governed especially after he started shooting peaceful protesters. After that all hell broke loose and the deal was dead with in hours.

The US sure as hell didn't bring about the people's uprising, I am flattered that you think the US controls people around the world with a snap of its hands, but the reality is Yanocovich dug his position himself with his whole sale corruption and attacking protesters. Everyone outside of Russia knows this and it is sad that Russians are so gullible they believe Putin's lies.

Don't you remember that the protesters were shot only after the deal was rejected, not before?

[giblets]

Oh, so now it's okay to criticize fat people

[Sava]

[Dr Strangelove]

Don't you remember that the protesters were shot only after the deal was rejected, not before?

I thought they were shot after they burned a bunch of Ukrainian police.

[Dinner]

Don't you remember that the protesters were shot only after the deal was rejected, not before?

The deal was signed on Feb 21st according to the Radio Free Europe article I linked above. Here is a news article published Feb 20th about events which occurred on Feb 19th.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/ukraine-forces-fire-protesters-white-house-outraged/story?id=22594842

You will notice 70 people were shot by Yanocovich's forces two days before the agreement not after the agreement as you contend.

It was demands for justice for opening fire on the protesters which caused the protesters to react with rage when the EU negotiated agreement about a unity government and early elections were announced on the 21st. That is why people refused the agreement the EU had worked out and decided just to rise up whole sale against the Yanocovich.

[Bereta_Eder]

nuland was giving them candybars before and after