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I foresee some retasking of the Russian attack sub fleet in the near future.......
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So what, their feet are not actually touching Ukrainian soil? These guys are levitating, or something?Originally posted by Dinner View Post
How else do these men train the Ukrainian recruits in Ukraine without having 'boots on the ground'!?
Holy ****, that's priceless even for you!"Aha, you must have supported the Iraq war and wear underpants made out of firearms, just like every other American!" LoinburgerComment
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And people like Putin are going to consider that virtually a declaration of war...Originally posted by The Mad Monk View Posthttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...dominance.html
Looks like the American energy strategy is going to cost less for Europe than the Russian energy strategy fairly shortly.
Oh, and **** the planet!
"Aha, you must have supported the Iraq war and wear underpants made out of firearms, just like every other American!" LoinburgerComment
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Mobius, you never stop digging deeper do you?Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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What part of boots on the ground don't you get?
Don't blame me if the 'separatists' decide to launch another attack using this 'provocation' as a pretext..."Aha, you must have supported the Iraq war and wear underpants made out of firearms, just like every other American!" LoinburgerComment
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Again, it is tbe same training the US has been helping the Ukraine with for 20 years and is not anything new. Also, you were just wrong when you claimed Russia started violating the cease fire agreement because of it as Russia has never honored the cease fire agreement. It never moved any of its heavy equipment back and every day it has continued shelling Ukrainian forces.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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Russia has never honored the ceasefire agreement because Russia wasn't a side of conflict, and so it wasn't a part of a ceasefire agreement. Well, i'm sure your western propaganda machine (the one you know under the name "free press") brainwashed you into thinking what you posted here, but thankfully for you, i'm here to help you so you'll know the truth. Best regards, from Mother Russia, Ellestar.Originally posted by Dinner View PostKnowledge is PowerComment
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Not in this manner it hasn't - or at least, if it has, prove me wrong with links.
“This is the first Ukrainian-American programme at this level, and it shows the transition of bilateral military cooperation into a fundamentally new dimension,” Poroshenko said
The US training mission has angered Moscow, which warned it could "destabilise" the situation in Ukraine.
Nearly 300 US soldiers hold joint exercises with 900 of Ukrainian counterparts in a move Moscow said could destabilise the situation in the east of the countryAlso, once Debaltseve was taken, things quietened down all across the region and heavy weapons were withdrawn - again prove anything other than sporadic violations otherwise...Some have worried the largely symbolic deployment of foreign trainers could lead to an escalation in the conflict. “Canada’s decision is not only provocative to Russia but it’s dangerous,” the retired Canadian diplomat James Bissett told the Ottawa Citizen last week.
Ukraine says rebels firing rocket launchers again
As in 'just started'...
There has been a recent uptick in clashes along the front separating government and rebel forces.All this has happened since the US troops arrived in Ukraine...Responsibility for checking whether the deal is being implemented lies with the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe. But the OSCE's special monitoring mission said late Monday that its monitors have been prevented by rebels from visiting a location where heavy arms have allegedly been deployed.
For the third time in four days, the rebels have prevented the mission "from freely accessing the eastern part of Shyrokyne," the OSCE said in statement.
Shyrokyne lies directly on the front line and is a short distance east of the key industrial port city of Mariupol, which is in government hands.
Fighting there has never entirely subsided despite the Minsk agreement, but clashes appear to have intensified in recent days.
The OSCE has said the clashes it saw Sunday in Shyrokyne were the worst it had seen since fighting began in the area in mid-February.
The mission said it observed dozens of tank shots and the deployment of plenty of other weapons proscribed under the peace deal.
U.S. State Department spokesman Jeff Rathke said in Washington that Russia has deployed more air defense systems into eastern Ukraine and positioned several near the front lines.
I never took you for a Republican Chickenhawk, Oerdin, but you're bearing all the hallmarks...
"Aha, you must have supported the Iraq war and wear underpants made out of firearms, just like every other American!" LoinburgerComment
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The same stuff was happening before the annual training mission too. The Russians have never honored the agreement nor stopped their attacks. Fact. So stop trying to pretend it magically started after because it didn't.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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"Aha, you must have supported the Iraq war and wear underpants made out of firearms, just like every other American!" LoinburgerComment
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Well, where are your facts!? I just asked you to post links backing up your statements and I get your opinion...Originally posted by Dinner View Post
LINKS!
You're as bad as Ellestar...
"Aha, you must have supported the Iraq war and wear underpants made out of firearms, just like every other American!" LoinburgerComment
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WITH American boots on the ground in Ukraine, Russia could not remain quiet. When American paratroopers began a training mission in western Ukraine earlier this week, the Kremlin said it could “destabilize the situation”. Then the Russian defence ministry accused America of deploying the trainers to the conflict's front lines, and the foreign ministry declared that the peace process has hit a "dead end".It is already destabilising the situation."Were any of us to provide weapons to Ukraine, Russia could match that and then double that and triple that and quadruple that," Antony Blinken, an American deputy secretary of state, told German media last month.
"Aha, you must have supported the Iraq war and wear underpants made out of firearms, just like every other American!" LoinburgerComment
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I know you're too retarded to do it, but you can at least try to read the text of the agreement... Well, i guess googling is just too hard for western idiots so i'll do it for you:Originally posted by I AM MOBIUS View PostOh **** off you moron!!!
And Russia isn't mentioned as a side of conflict, so Russia doesn't need to withdraw troops. Surprise, surprise.Pull-out of all heavy weapons by both sides to equal distance with the aim of creation of a security zone on minimum 50 kilometres (31 mi) apart for artillery of 100mm calibre or more, and a security zone of 70 kilometres (43 mi) for multiple rocket launchers (MRLS) and 140 kilometres (87 mi) for MLRS Tornado-S, Uragan, Smerch, and Tochka U tactical missile systems:
for Ukrainian troops, from actual line of contact;
for armed formations of particular districts of Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts of Ukraine, from the contact line in accordance with the Minsk Memorandum as of 19 September 2014
The pullout of the above-mentioned heavy weapons must start no later than the second day after the start of the ceasefire and finish within 14 days.
This process will be assisted by OSCE with the support of the Trilateral Contact Group.Knowledge is PowerComment
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I'm not going to enter into a debate with you because your lies are so obvious and easily disproved as to be hilarious in the extreme, so stop wasting your time so that I can laugh at you...
"Aha, you must have supported the Iraq war and wear underpants made out of firearms, just like every other American!" LoinburgerComment
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Well, of course, it's kinda hard to debate with a quote from a Minsk II agreement. It will be a monologue at best. I doubt that Minsk II agreement will be able to talk back even if you'll try to debate with it.Originally posted by I AM MOBIUS View PostI'm not going to enter into a debate with you because your lies are so obvious and easily disproved as to be hilarious in the extreme, so stop wasting your time so that I can laugh at you...Knowledge is PowerComment
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