what happened to the großrossiya thread

[Proteus_MST]

The Russian soldiers have been in Crimea since 1783.
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I didn´t talk about the soldiers being there (in their bases) ... but about them being used before and during the referendum ... as the "little green men"

https://www.rt.com/news/crimea-defense-russian-soldiers-108/

Something Putin vehemently denied before it was proven that this was a lie

http://sputniknews.com/russia/20140304/188087074/Putin-Denies-Sending-Russian-Troops-to-Crimea.html

[Serb]

I don't think it makes that big a difference on most topics. On some yes.
When someone comes on and says the invasion of IRAQ was the worst policy decision ever, I don't care that he's not an IRAQI. I still listen to his opinion and take it into consideration.
The same with most other experts. And in some cases I'm sure the expert is better versed than the common Russian on the streets.

a) It makes a difference. There is a difference when you hear someone who is a source, an origin of opinion or to hear a someone who just supports that opinion (with his own corrections).
b) No matter how closely you hear your "expert" - you still do what you do - you invade, kill and ruin the countries. And the majority of your society supports that.
c) Once again, we have sh!tloads of our "experts" some of them are just talking heads and pure idiots, BUT, we have the "experts" from the opposite side (in this case 100% pure Americans, who have their own vision) and we let them (and to their domestic supporters) speak on daily basis in our most popular talk shows in prime time on the main channels (counterparts of your CNN/FOX).
You don't do that. And I just know that. And you can't prove me I'm brainwashed here, 'cause sometimes I do watch your "free media" (Goebbels's pride, actually) to keep my English less rusty.

[Serb]

I didn´t talk about the soldiers being there (in their bases) ... but about them being used before and during the referendum ... as the "little green men"

https://www.rt.com/news/crimea-defense-russian-soldiers-108/

Something Putin vehemently denied before it was proven that this was a lie

http://sputniknews.com/russia/201403...to-Crimea.html

oh, ****!
:FACEPALM:

I have never heard of that "sputniknews" before, but they sound like a yellow press who add their own conclusions to the original text.
Here is the quote:

MOSCOW, March 4 (RIA Novosti) – Russian President Vladimir Putin said Tuesday that his country has not deployed any troops in Crimea
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/201403...#ixzz3p7yV84w9

TRUE! Because Russia had over 20K troops in Crimea already.

Btw, Ukraine had over 20K of personnel and surely had more heavy weaponry (tanks, arty) and no less aircrafts (on paper), but still withdrew from the peninsula without a single gun shot (and after that there are still western idiots who believe in a mighty Ukrainian army which slaughters Russian hordes in Donbass? FI)

MOSCOW, March 4 (RIA Novosti) and has no plans to annex the peninsula.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/201403...#ixzz3p7yV84w9

And that part of the quote is a pure addition from the local "creacles".

[Serb]

Show me who Putin says that.

[Serb]

dp

[Ellestar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q60yBQG8XI&hd=1

That's how a city (and a country) looks after an appearance of "moderate opposition"

Ukraine, Lybia, Syria, Iraq... Every country where West interferes needs dozens of years of development to get back to it's former economic power. Imagine how hard it is to build back a city like that? And war isn't even over yet.

[Dinner]

So which stations are mostly anti-Putin in Russia?

Which ones are like FOX where every other story is anti-Obama.

They even kicked CNN off the air because they dared to broadcast facts which the dictator Putin did not like.

[Dinner]

Russia has done more damage to ISIS within 3 weeks, then you did within 1.5 years. Fact.

Russia has done just five token air strikes against ISIS and has spent virtually all of its time attacking the moderate opposition not ISIS. In fact, ISIS has GAINED territory because Putin has ignored it and mostly attacked the moderates.

Assad wants the moderate opposition gone because they are the real threat to his dictatorship surviving. As long as their are moderates their is an attractive non-Assad option so, naturally, Assad wants them dead and the lying war criminal Putin is helping him. You truly are brainwashed and uninformed. It is sad to see what ignorance Putin' propaganda has reduced you to.

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No matter how closely PUTIN hear your "expert" - PUTIN still do what PUTIN do - PUTIN invade, kill and ruin the countries. And the majority of Russians supports that.

It's leaders that do what they want. They may want to do what the majority wants but they are not required or even required to care.

And an expert does not have to be a native to have an expert opinion. Heck there are tons of Americans that I don't give a rat's ass about their opinion. (some of them post here )

In all honesty, I'm more likely to believe an expert that isn't a native because there's a better chance that he isn't biased.

The more you talk about the western media, the more I think you really don't watch that much of it.

[Dinner]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q60yBQG8XI&hd=1
That's how a city (and a country) looks after an appearance of "moderate opposition"

Ukraine, Lybia, Syria, Iraq... Every country where West interferes needs dozens of years of development to get back to it's former economic power. Imagine how hard it is to build back a city like that? And war isn't even over yet.

Assad has been using barrel bombs and artillery to destroy whole cities while Russian war criminals use dumb bombs to destroy civilian areas. Then we had Putin ordering the use of thermobaric weapons on whole villages in the Ukraine.

[Bereta_Eder]

Exactly, bro!

Putin is not perfect. He has his own drawbacks. And I'm not his fanboy, 'cause I'm a communist and he is not (he is actually more like the opposite), but still - I give him HUGE merit for his work, thought he has his own vision of how my country should going (which is not exactly the same as mine). He had 2-7 in his hand when he came to power (a disaster instead of a country, the country his rivals have buried long time ago), but after the flop he forces to fold his hand a guy with AK. That was a metaphor of course. What I mean is that he is a greatest leader among modern politicians. He beats them bare hands. And from historical perspective - one of the greatest for sure. Only few could successfully fought with so little reserves so many threats, both internal and external. He has deserved my respect for that for sure. And what is more importantly - he has deserved his place in history as a great leader and strategist.

Serb I get my news from french media mostly
It's because greek media only care about one thing (the crisis, the crisis, the crisis) and don't see beyond their nose.
Whereas the frenchies have an OUTSTANDING media outlet (not talking necessairily about mainstream but farily widespread) that is not at all contrained by the anglosaxon (american, english, assorted peanuts) POV.

I learned a lot from that.

[Serb]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q60yBQG8XI&hd=1
That's how a city (and a country) looks after an appearance of "moderate opposition"

Ukraine, Lybia, Syria, Iraq... Every country where West interferes needs dozens of years of development to get back to it's former economic power. Imagine how hard it is to build back a city like that? And war isn't even over yet.

Let me quote Russel "Texas" Bentley: "This is how Armageddon looks like"

And the fиckers here who pretend to don't realize their responsibility for that, for everything what was done by their governments thanks to their silent approval, would burn in hell forever.

[rah]

So you're on record for taking responsibility for anything that Putin does?

[Serb]

Russia has done just five token air strikes against ISIS and has spent virtually all of its time attacking the moderate opposition not ISIS. In fact, ISIS has GAINED territory because Putin has ignored it and mostly attacked the moderates.

Assad wants the moderate opposition gone because they are the real threat to his dictatorship surviving. As long as their are moderates their is an attractive non-Assad option so, naturally, Assad wants them dead and the lying war criminal Putin is helping him. You truly are brainwashed and uninformed. It is sad to see what ignorance Putin' propaganda has reduced you to.

Look, idiot!

The ISIS didn't even exist before you have invaded Iraq.

YES OR NO?

The ISIS was capturing more and more territory while you have bombed them.

YES OR NO?

Your entire Western coalition air campaign produced ZERO RESULTS! Because the ISIS slaughters MORE people on greater territory then before you have started YOUR campaign.

YES OR NO?

DUMBASS, MOTHERF*CKER!


If you want to know how it's gonna be in the real life, not in your wet dreams injected in your empty brain by your Western media, I can tell you how it's gonna be.

a) Before the January 1 of 2016 the Syrian-Turkey border will be sealed. The Syrian Army will re-capture that strategic piece of its territory to prevent any support from abroad to ISIS (which goes through Turkey).

b) A month after, if not sooner, Russia will continue to push further. The Iraqis government will give its permission for Russian Air Force to bomb targets on its territory.

c) The Syrian and Iranian forces will do the job on ground covered by our planes. In Iraq I mean.

d) ISIS is no more.

e) Syria would probably become a federation.

f) Not really sure about Iraq. Probably so. In any case there will be wide negotiation process for the future of both states.


Any case: the coalition of Russia, Iran, Syria and Iraq will bury the ISIS PERMANENTLY, 'cause no f*cking militias can do anything vs. a regular army in a DESERT, you freaking idiot!

Had you government really wanted to destroy the new Dark Ages menace - they would have done it long time ago. And since they haven't - either ISIS is an American ally or USA is completely incompetent.

Both is true actually.

Get back to this post after six months, ad we'will see who was right.
Brainless parrot.

[Bereta_Eder]

I should make a correction: I did read once a great reporting from donbass with greek journalists in the thick of the battle. They knew all greek-ukranian fighters with name there and reported. But they were VERY russophiles So I took what they were saying with a grain of salt
Although at the end they were not wrong. Donbas is not under ukranian control.