Happy Columbus Day!

[MrFun]

Outrage/white guilt over Columbus Day is ****ing adorable.

Quit your whining and simpering. It was a joke.

[Bereta_Eder]

And Because she took that step, we're all typing here now. We have much to owe to Queen Isabella for her foresight.

Personally we should all call it Isabella, or Catholic Monarch's day.

and now a nice song

[Colonâ„¢]

Isn't that amazing though.
The spanish right after the reconquista with loud brawlish hardened soldiers that had nothing anymore to do and created all sorts of trouble in spain, discover the new world and pour all those soldiers there.
Well, what ensued isn't really any surprise.

Spain and Columbus are quite the pair. One stumbled onto a continent and the other into an empire, inspite of themselves.

[Bereta_Eder]

That's where my knowledge ends though.
I still haven't learned how the english managed to outmanouvre them and create this monster, sorry, I mean spectacular state they did

[Ben Kenobi]

I still haven't learned how the english managed to outmanouvre them and create this monster, sorry, I mean spectacular state they did

James VI/I's royal charter to the London company in 1606.

Also, John Cabot's travels to England from Seville after Columbus sailed west. He was the first to discover North America, and is the foundation of the British claim to North America. Of course, it doesn't matter what you have if you don't have any settlements there.

You'll also have to read up on the defeat of the Spanish Armada.

Those are all reasons why Britain managed to 'outmaneuver' them.

[Colonâ„¢]

That's where my knowledge ends though.
I still haven't learned how the english managed to outmanouvre them and create this monster, sorry, I mean spectacular state they did

Spain spent all its silver and much more on wars while the country itself was thinly populated and poor.

[Ben Kenobi]

Spain spent all its silver and much more on wars while the country itself was thinly populated and poor.

In 1532, after Pizarro took Peru?

20 years later, Spain actually had control of England too. So it's not very obvious at that point that the England of the 1550s would have been able to compete with Spain. It was a very near run thing.

[Elok]

You don't like the idea of being sacrificed to their sun god?

The rain god Tlaloc was the real SOB--he took children. To Hernan Cortez!

[regexcellent]

Who here has read Pastwatch?

[self biased]

this time last year, i had to unfriend someone on facebook for arguing with my girlfriend about what a complete ****bag columbus was. the centerpiece of his argument was "Well, Golly Gee, some native americans were ****bags too!" i could only watch in disappointment and horror as he tried to convince my girlfriend, my NATIVE AMERICAN girlfriend, that columbus wasn't such a bad guy after all.

[self biased]

also, why do you hate brown people, Mr. Fun?

[Ben Kenobi]

So that means you get to **** on Christians on Christmas? Disagree.

****ting on random folks on Columbus day is no different. **** on other folks, just for the purpose of ****ting on them is going to get **** back.

Guarantee it.

If you don't like it, rant on about the evil imperialist whitey every other 364 days of the year.

[Aeson]

I am going to draw up plans for my own extermination of natives ... to be carried out on Oct 24 when Civilization: Beyond Earth is released and I can colonize a new world

[Elok]

Who here has read Pastwatch?

I did. Not really Card's best work.

[Sava]

Outrage/white guilt over Columbus Day is ****ing adorable.

The only thing more pathetic is Columbus day whining-whining.