What's the difference between ISIS fundies, and American religious-right fundies?

[Ben Kenobi]

Membership in a church automatically disqualifies someone from being a Christian.

Isn't that literally 180 degrees from Orthodoxy?

[Sava]

Baptism is responsible for killing more American children than ISIS.

http://www.11alive.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/24/prayer-baby-drowns-church-baptismal-tank/16145695/

[Sava]

[Kidlicious]

I go to church. I just have no idea why you want to know where or why you lied about me again. I guess you have bad habits.

[rah]

Ben doesn't want you to answer.
When people refuse to answer his non relevant questions, he claims victory on whatever other asinine claim he was trying to make.

[Ben Kenobi]

I go to church.

What church do you go to?

I just have no idea why you want to know where or why you lied about me again. I guess you have bad habits.

Uh. You were saying that Ray Rice didn't beat his fiancée. Ray Rice even admitted in a court of law that he did.

[Kidlicious]

What I said is actually in that thread. Like Dashi said, the sad thing is that you think you are being clever.

[Sava]

If it makes anyone feel better, UK Conservatives are using the ISIS scare to institute highly authoritarian "reforms".

Extremists will have to get posts on Facebook and Twitter approved in advance by the police under sweeping rules planned by the Conservatives.

They will also be barred from speaking at public events if they represent a threat to “the functioning of democracy”, under the new Extremist Disruption Orders.

Theresa May, the Home Secretary, will lay out plans to allow judges to ban people from broadcasting or protesting in certain places, as well as associating with specific people.

The plans — to be brought in if the Conservatives win the election in May — are part of a wide-ranging set of rules to strengthen the Government’s counter-terrorism strategy.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/11129474/Extremists-to-have-Facebook-and-Twitter-vetted-by-anti-terror-police.html

Seems like UK Conservatives are the greatest current threat to representative democracy in the UK.

[Proteus_MST]

Here's a question, Proteus, if we stack up all the Americans killed on American soil by islamists and compare it with the stack of Americans killed on American soil by Christians, which bucket is larger?

The one killed by christians, by large.
Considering the fact that AFAIK the majority of americans consider themselves to be christians, and the number of people killed by firearms per year is more than double as large as the number of people killed in 9/11, one can assume that he chance is far higher to be killed by a christian in the USA, than to be killed by a muslim.
I cannot say, however, how the numbers would look if we concentrate on people who were killed due to the faith of the attacker (and not for other reasons).
(especially as, if we want to determine the chance to get killed by a terrorist atack by a (christian or muslim) terrorist we might rather to have to concentrate on the number of events, rather than number of deaths (9/11 for example would be 4 events .. a sniper who kills 10 persons woud be 1 event and so on)).

You're telling me that people who didn't know what a virus was back in 1500 are morally culpable for spreading infectious disease?

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Biological warfare was well known to the people in medieval times. They didn´t need to know the vector of the spread of the diseases (i.e. bactieriae/virii), just observe what happens during diseases. One favorite tactics in sieges, for example, was, to hurl plague victims over the walls of the besieged castle/city.
The siegers very well knew, that this was sufficient to have a good chance for the disease to spread within the population of the besieged city/castle (and therefore weaken the defenders).

So, the argument that the missionaries/conquistadors didn´t have enough knowledge about diseases in order to wage germ warfare against indians (for example by distributing infected clothes/blankets), is a rather weak one.
(on the other hand I also don´t claim they did .... with a lot of diseases the europeans brought, the problem rather was the lacking resistance of the indians (so that european sailors, without knowing it, served as vectors for a disease (that they were themselves immune against))

[MrFun]

American megachurch pastor says gays need to be put to death.

[Ben Kenobi]

The one killed by christians, by large.

Within the last 100 years?

Considering the fact that AFAIK the majority of americans consider themselves to be christians, and the number of people killed by firearms per year is more than double as large as the number of people killed in 9/11, one can assume that he chance is far higher to be killed by a christian in the USA, than to be killed by a muslim.

One, you're assuming that those who commit homicides are disproportionately Christian. Is there any evidence for this preposition?

I cannot say, however, how the numbers would look if we concentrate on people who were killed due to the faith of the attacker (and not for other reasons).
(especially as, if we want to determine the chance to get killed by a terrorist atack by a (christian or muslim) terrorist we might rather to have to concentrate on the number of events, rather than number of deaths (9/11 for example would be 4 events .. a sniper who kills 10 persons woud be 1 event and so on)).

Well, you're basically conceding then that terrorism is substantially Islamic in America. Which is my point. Is there some Christian terrorism by your definition? Yes, but it's substantially less than islam. There would have to be 50 9-11s just to match. That's 150 thousand people.

Biological warfare was well known to the people in medieval times.

Incidental contact doesn't qualify as biological warfare. Europeans had no clue about acquired immunity or even that the population of those in North America had no exposure to smallpox. How could they?

So, the argument that the missionaries/conquistadors didn´t have enough knowledge about diseases in order to wage germ warfare against indians (for example by distributing infected clothes/blankets), is a rather weak one.

They would not have known that Indians were susceptible to smallpox, until they were already dying from the disease.

[MrFun]

Does BK know that I still have him on Ignore?

[AAAAAAAAH!]

He was responding to the Nazi German, not you.

[Kidlicious]

Does BK know that I still have him on Ignore?

No. We're all sufficiently afraid for your life. Now STFU.