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  • #76
    Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
    There's a difference between a bug kept in a vial under standard controls and setting a precedent to return infected folks from hot zones to America. It's a terrible precedent.

    This is going to cost other Americans their lives.
    Can we expect a mea culpa from you when the Sister Bendy Ebola epidemic doesn't after all break out ?

    I think it's more likely an American might come down with hanta virus, bubonic plague or Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever than Ebola. And guess where all those lovely diseases already live in the wild ?

    They knew the risks when they left.
    Wow, you just can't keep your Christian ethics out of this, can you ?

    “I have no idea what's awaiting me, or what will happen when this all ends. For the moment I know this: there are sick people and they need curing.”

    Albert Camus, 'La Peste'.
    Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

    ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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    • #77
      I think BK wants there to be a massive plague.
      To us, it is the BEAST.

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      • #78
        Rep. Todd Rokita (R-Ind.) warns that some of the 30,000 children who have crossed illegally into the U.S. from Central America might have Ebola. The U.S. Office of Refugee Settlement says none of the children are infected, which is unsurprising since no one in the Western Hemisphere has ever contracted the disease.
        Rep. Todd Rokita (R-Ind.) warns that some of the 30,000 children who have crossed illegally into the U.S. from Central America might have Ebola. The U.S. Office of Refugee Settlement says none of the children are infected, which is unsurprising since no one in the Western Hemisphere has ever contracted the disease.

        To us, it is the BEAST.

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        • #79
          And Jesus said to his flock.. "KEEP THOSE ****ING LEPERS AWAY FROM ME, ARE YOU ****ING INSANE?!!?!?"

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          • #80
            Originally posted by kentonio View Post
            And Jesus said to his flock.. "KEEP THOSE ****ING LEPERS AWAY FROM ME, ARE YOU ****ING INSANE?!!?!?"
            I think Ben is a victim of media fearmongering in this case.
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            • #81
              what happens to a person who survives, does their system destroy the virus or do they become a carrier anyway?

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Berzerker View Post
                what happens to a person who survives, does their system destroy the virus or do they become a carrier anyway?
                For you Berz: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/survivin...at-lies-ahead/
                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                • #83
                  For you Ben: Gutfeld: Stop the Ebola hysteria
                  I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                  For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                    If we can float a carrier what's the issue with floating out a mobile diagnostics lab? They have finally started dropping some off in Africa to help with the crisis there.
                    How long do you think it takes to build one of those carriers?
                    "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                    • #85
                      In a word? Infrastructure. All the equipment is already here, as are all the researchers and their families. They work on this stuff, here, every day.

                      You do not send everything out to Diego Garcia because it makes things much more costly, and you will likely suffer in recruiting personnel.
                      You're already flying them back to Georgia, Diego Garcia becomes a much better option. The facilities are there, you're looking at two people.

                      As for personnel - if this is such a big deal they won't have trouble finding people. If it's not such a big deal, why are we breaking containment?

                      For a similar reason you don't send billions in costly equipment and highly trained personnel to one of the most unstable regions on the planet. They already have mobs attacking health workers, accusing them of spreading the disease.
                      Which is why we are now sending this stuff in. It's going to happen. If this was done to save money, this is a horrible way to do it.
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                      • #86
                        I think BK wants there to be a massive plague.
                        I'm arguing you don't violate basic principles of containment by flying someone out of a hot zone to America. It sets a horrible precedent.

                        I think Ben is a victim of media fearmongering in this case.
                        It's common sense. You don't pull people who have gone to hot zones out of hot zones until they've finished with the incubation period.
                        Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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                        • #87
                          How long do you think it takes to build one of those carriers?
                          Are you really this dumb, Doc? If they could send one to Indonesia, they could do the same here.

                          "KEEP THOSE ****ING LEPERS AWAY FROM ME, ARE YOU ****ING INSANE?!!?!?"
                          Where am I arguing for doctors to avoid going? I am saying they know the risks. I'm arguing for them to stay in the hot zone and maintain a quarantine if they are infected. This is standard operating procedure.

                          I do not believe that the situation as it presents itself warrants breaking containment for two people.
                          Last edited by Ben Kenobi; August 5, 2014, 22:20.
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                          • #88
                            oh please... with everything we pump into the water... bury in landfills and inject our food with, we're really worried about two people.

                            the sky is not falling. no need to run!

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                            • #89
                              For you Ben: Gutfeld: Stop the Ebola hysteria
                              You're sending a deaf person a video? Really Dinodoc?
                              Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                              "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
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                              • #90
                                dude survived the bug and still had traces in his semen 60 days later

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