Israeli Police Beat 15 year old American Citizen

[Al B. Sure!]

Go on and suck Petraeus' dick, why don't you. Israel's been doing this counterinsurgency thing a hell of a lot longer than we have, and are way better at it. Given how colossally we've ****ed up in Afghanistan and Iraq, not to mention Vietnam, and the fact that the West Bank and Hezbollah have been basically quiet for what, almost a decade now? We should be taking leafs from their book, not the other way around.

And the Hama massacre made Hafez Assad a master counterinsurgent, apparently. Why didn't we just emulate him?

[DinoDoc]

We'd have been better off if his son had.

[regexcellent]

So nothing about Israel's treatment of Palestinians including the killing of Palestinians affects support for Hamas? Grow the hell up. Nothing in this world is black and white.

Our own counterinsurgency doctrine, developed by Generals Patraeus and Mattis, acknowledges the following admonitions:


Sometimes, the more you protect your force, the less secure you may be

Sometimes, the more force is used, the less effective it is

Sometimes doing nothing is the best reaction

Some of the best weapons for counterinsurgents do not shoot

Petraeus' counterinsurgency plan was to buy off the bad guys until we left, creating the illusion of success for just long enough to get himself promoted. That's the only thing he has ever been good at: getting himself promoted. I would say he's also good at self-promotion in the press, but he blew that by acting like a creepy lovelorn highschooler with his mistress.

[Aeson]

Go on and suck Petraeus' dick, why don't you. Israel's been doing this counterinsurgency thing a hell of a lot longer than we have, and are way better at it. Given how colossally we've ****ed up in Afghanistan and Iraq, not to mention Vietnam, and the fact that the West Bank and Hezbollah have been basically quiet for what, almost a decade now? We should be taking leafs from their book, not the other way around.

Well to be fair, there haven't been any Native American uprisings of note for quite a while now. Maybe Israel should start passing out smallpox infested blankets ...

[Uncle Sparky]

Well to be fair, there haven't been any Native American uprisings of note for quite a while now. Maybe Israel should start passing out smallpox infested blankets ...

They do block shipments of medication to the Palestinian territory, so similar effect.

[C0ckney]

If Hamas didn't seek the destruction of Israel and the death of Jews, there'd be no Gaza blockade. There'd be no bombing. There'd be no wall. There'd be peace in Palestine and Israel.

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There's no feedback loop here, Alby. Hamas isn't retaliating for anything. They instigated the whole thing and Israel would like nothing better than to de-escalate.

oh wait...you're serious.

[C0ckney]

Well, if it stopped using those things, then yes it would become defenseless, ipso facto. Jesus Christ.

If Israel didn't defend itself from attacks like the ones Hamas has been carrying out on a regular basis, to wit: kidnapping and killing teenagers, launching rockets, attempting (and sometimes succeeding with) bombings, then it would be defenseless by definition. The fact that this is not stunningly obvious to you only leaves me with one very uncharitable conclusion about your intelligence.

it's telling that you think that 'israel defending itself' is synonymous with 'stealing from, humiliating and killing palestinian civilians'; i'm sure the IDF would welcome you with open arms, you fascist little arsehole.

it's also remarkable that you, and the other half of your shabby double act, can't even ask why there is a conflict, preferring instead to present dishonest and laughable zionist tropes, of which we've already seen several in this thread.

[regexcellent]

it's telling that you think that 'israel defending itself' is synonymous with 'stealing from, humiliating and killing palestinian civilians'; i'm sure the IDF would welcome you with open arms, you fascist little arsehole.

it's also remarkable that you, and the other half of your shabby double act, can't even ask why there is a conflict, preferring instead to present dishonest and laughable zionist tropes, of which we've already seen several in this thread.

No, I don't think it is, I'm just not inclined to split up your quotes and address each one of your retarded claims separately. And what's with calling them zionist? Anyway, the cause of the conflict is the Arabs refusing to coexist with the Jews, so as soon as they're actually willing to have peace (they're not right now) there will be peace.

[Al B. Sure!]

And what's with calling them zionist?

Webster's Dictionary:

Zionism: an international movement originally for the establishment of a Jewish national or religious community in Palestine and later for the support of modern Israel

You're not a Zionist now?

[DinoDoc]

For laughs, I hope Al's ordered to work with the IDF in some capacity during his term of military service.

[Sava]

and are way better at it

Yeah. Their genocidal quagmire has been around for 66 years.

[Sava]

It's weird to find myself as the "conservative" here.

[The Mad Monk]

Yeah. Their genocidal quagmire has been around for 66 years.

Per Albie's video, it's probably the least genocidal quagmire in the past 3,000 years.

[Sava]

cuz half of israel feels guilty

it's not as if the whole country is a single entity that is hardcore right wing zionist

[Sava]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28279562

75% of casualties are civilian

Oh! Maybe it's like baseball where if you do something 30% of the time, it's considered pretty good.


Vladdy PooPoo approves of Israel

There's an endorsement if I've ever seen one.

http://collive.com/show_news.rtx?id=31099&alias=president-putin-i-support-israel

In Soviet Russia, Mass Murderer approve of YOU!