Israeli Police Beat 15 year old American Citizen

[Sava]

Netanyahoo needs to take a one way trip to The Hague. War criminal.

[C0ckney]

No, I don't think it is, I'm just not inclined to split up your quotes and address each one of your retarded claims separately.

if i couldn't respond, i wouldn't be inclined to either.

Anyway, the cause of the conflict is the Arabs refusing to coexist with the Jews, so as soon as they're actually willing to have peace (they're not right now) there will be peace.

your knowledge of history and ability to think about the situation is about what i'd expect, but i'll try to help you out here. why can't palestinians co-exist with israelis? because the israelis have stolen their land and continue to steal their land to this day; this being combined with a campaign of humiliation and of collective punishment for any resistence.

[Al B. Sure!]

Regexcellent, HC, DinoDoc, and Oerdin all fall for the problematic binary good vs evil historical dichotomy. While it is easier to digest complex historical processes and events if put in such simplistic terms, and it makes efficient mass media and political narratives, it prevents actual real analysis of history and current events from which we can derive solutions for current problems or provide heuristics for future situations.

For example, it is easy to say Hitler and the Nazis were evil. But when we dehumanize them and turn them into an evil caricature, something alien, and not humans like the rest of us responding in an unfortunate way to certain circumstances, we set ourselves up to miss the next genocidal warmongerers. Genocidal warmongerers never seem so genocidal until after the fact; few contemporaries recognize their potential, precisely because evil is something seen as alien and extreme, not something that, given certain circumstances, you, me, or anyone like us could find ourselves committing.

No one is born with the desire to blow themselves up for a political cause or fire rockets into crowded marketplaces. No one is innately evil. Humans have the innate potential for great violence but very few will kill, or completely override one's own survival instinct, simply to cause others pain and not because one feels justified in some way; because one is wronged in some way, even if the wrong is mostly perceived.

The adage that one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter rings true, but it can be misconstrued into a statement of equivalence and moral ambiguity. No, there are still 'bad' guys who do terrible things and need to be stopped, but even they have motivations and legitimate concerns that need to be addressed, especially since killing them all probably will not also destroy their cause, especially when it has lasted for decades and has generated support from the civilian population. Simply ignoring these motivations and concerns or, worse, turning them into caricatures to fit a neat mass media narrative, is not helpful.

[Sava]

Speer

(believe me, I'd like to do it more often)

[The Mad Monk]

What do you do about cultures that actively encourage it?

[Sava]

Cultures don't encourage. People do.

[The Mad Monk]

Anything you say.

[The Mad Monk]

Cultures are all about encouraging. That's what they do. That's why they exist.

[DinoDoc]

For example, it is easy to say Hitler and the Nazis were evil.

They were evil. Hamas is evil. But it isn't an innate trait endemic to them. Evil is a choice they make and that choice has consequences. In this case, it appears that the consequences are being blown to kingdom come by IDF weapons.

[DaShi]

Cultures don't encourage. People do.

Next you are going to say that guns don't kill people.

It's hilarious that the people here who will argue for personal responsibility for gun rights will not argue for it in order to support genocide.

[Sava]

Cultures are all about encouraging. That's what they do. That's why they exist.

A culture is an inanimate object, incapable of doing things like... encourage.

Stop excusing the behavior of humans. People are responsible. Not abstract ideas.

[Sava]

Next you are going to say that guns don't kill people.

It's hilarious that the people here who will argue for personal responsibility for gun rights will not argue for it in order to support genocide.

[Uncle Sparky]

Anything you say.

We should be sending more powerful/accurate missiles to the Palestinian. Then they wouldn't feel obliged to blow themselves up.

[DinoDoc]

The language slip here is amusing:

[Dauphin]

I prefer the follow on link.