The Mystery of Fashion

[Sava]

frank misogyny.

but Frank is a good guy! He's not one of these fashion nazis!

[Sava]

also, where are these Lori, Elok, and HC pics?

I WANNA PUT A NAME TO THE FACE

[Sava]

uhmmm, i mean... .... YOU KNOW WHAT I MEANL

[Elok]

There's a strong argument to be made for exploitation at least, if not outright misogyny. These magazines have pages and pages dedicated to convincing women that they need to spend outrageous amounts of cash on grotesquely impractical clothing, then spend an hour every morning putting on complex combinations of makeup, or they'll look ugly or dowdy.

[Sava]

and those poor women! They need big strong men, who know about the evils of fashion, to save them!

They're being misogynized and don't even know it!

[regexcellent]

There's a strong argument to be made for exploitation at least, if not outright misogyny. These magazines have pages and pages dedicated to convincing women that they need to spend outrageous amounts of cash on grotesquely impractical clothing, then spend an hour every morning putting on complex combinations of makeup, or they'll look ugly or dowdy.

Eh, trying to get people to foolishly spend lots of money isn't exploitation or else all advertising is exploitation, and by extension television, etc...I do wonder though, who buys that junk?

[Sava]

advertising is a blight and should be illegal

[C0ckney]

all advertising is exploitation, and by extension television, etc

it appears that you have seen the light

[regexcellent]

Nobody makes you buy that ****. Trying to convince you to buy a product isn't exploitation unless you're a ****ing ****** with a dumb definition of exploitation--oh wait, you are.

[Sava]

Nobody makes you buy that ****. Trying to convince you to buy a product isn't exploitation unless you're a ****ing ****** with a dumb definition of exploitation--oh wait, you are.

You are the one using the word "exploitation", not me.

I just hate ads. They annoy me. They don't exploit me. Ban them.

[regexcellent]

It was a response to c0ckney, the forum's resident dip**** guardian reader.

[Elok]

I'm sure there are fine lines, shades of grey, etc., but in general, if you're knowingly exploiting someone's fears to sell them something you know they won't need, like, or have a legitimate use for, you're behaving immorally. You're right that much of advertising does this, but you can sell someone, say, a ridiculously huge TV with the expectation that they will enjoy having flashy lights blasted at them from an enormous surface. Ditto for boats or guns or fancy food. You have to be either stupid or lying to yourself on a grand scale if you think anyone should pay $3000 for an ugly, impractical handbag that will be declared out of style in six months.

[C0ckney]

There's a strong argument to be made for exploitation at least, if not outright misogyny. These magazines have pages and pages dedicated to convincing women that they need to spend outrageous amounts of cash on grotesquely impractical clothing, then spend an hour every morning putting on complex combinations of makeup, or they'll look ugly or dowdy.

People are taking the piss out of you everyday. They butt into your life, take a cheap shot at you and then disappear. They leer at you from tall buildings and make you feel small. They make flippant comments from buses that imply you’re not sexy enough and that all the fun is happening somewhere else. They are on TV making your girlfriend feel inadequate. They have access to the most sophisticated technology the world has ever seen and they bully you with it. They are The Advertisers and they are laughing at you.

You, however, are forbidden to touch them. Trademarks, intellectual property rights and copyright law mean advertisers can say what they like wherever they like with total impunity.

**** that. Any advert in a public space that gives you no choice whether you see it or not is yours. It’s yours to take, re-arrange and re-use. You can do whatever you like with it. Asking for permission is like asking to keep a rock someone just threw at your head.

You owe the companies nothing. Less than nothing, you especially don’t owe them any courtesy. They owe you. They have re-arranged the world to put themselves in front of you. They never asked for your permission, don’t even start asking for theirs.

- Banksy

[Sava]

It was a response to c0ckney, the forum's resident dip**** guardian reader.

[Sava]

People are taking the piss out of you everyday. They butt into your life, take a cheap shot at you and then disappear. They leer at you from tall buildings and make you feel small. They make flippant comments from buses that imply you’re not sexy enough and that all the fun is happening somewhere else. They are on TV making your girlfriend feel inadequate. They have access to the most sophisticated technology the world has ever seen and they bully you with it. They are The Advertisers and they are laughing at you.

You, however, are forbidden to touch them. Trademarks, intellectual property rights and copyright law mean advertisers can say what they like wherever they like with total impunity.

**** that. Any advert in a public space that gives you no choice whether you see it or not is yours. It’s yours to take, re-arrange and re-use. You can do whatever you like with it. Asking for permission is like asking to keep a rock someone just threw at your head.

You owe the companies nothing. Less than nothing, you especially don’t owe them any courtesy. They owe you. They have re-arranged the world to put themselves in front of you. They never asked for your permission, don’t even start asking for theirs.

- Banksy