Political quiz

[Bereta_Eder]

I took the quiz but I closed the window and the results dissapeared

I remember being very labour, very green, quite a lot scottish and not at all UKIP

[kentonio]

blahblahblah you are wrong, your premise is false... just admit it

How is my premise wrong?

Your conservatives include the BNP.

No they don't.

Also, isn't "labour" like center-left? That's Blair's party. He'd be a solid Republican.

Yes they are. No he wouldn't. Joining in a war doesn't mean he'd be a Republican.

If anything, UK politics is skewed slightly to the right of America, not the left

Because all UK parties support universal healthcare, welfare benefits, workers rights, homosexual unions and abortion? Those famously right wing policies?

[C0ckney]

i suspect that putting my own stance in on various issues skewed the results somewhat.

[C0ckney]

Because all UK parties support universal healthcare, welfare benefits, workers rights, homosexual unions and abortion? Those famously right wing policies?

[Sava]

How is my premise wrong?

By not being correct.

No they don't.

Yes. They do. If you're going to compare this to America, you have to find the "center" and split everything down the middle. That means BNP is "conservative".

Yes they are. No he wouldn't. Joining in a war doesn't mean he'd be a Republican.

If you're going to compare this to America, then yes it does.

Because all UK parties support universal healthcare, welfare benefits, workers rights, homosexual unions and abortion? Those famously right wing policies?

First... lol

Second, you are the one trying to compare this to America, not me. Many Republicans believe in those things too.

[notyoueither]

I side with Liberal Democrats on most political issues.

Lib Dem 88%
Cons 86%
UKIP 82%
SNat 66%
Labr 62%
PCym 62%

I suspect my answers would have been quite erratic for a Brit or Euro.

[Donegeal]

I got conservative, but for most of the questions where I put 'Somewhat Important' or 'Most Important' we differed.

[Sava]

I got conservative, but for most of the questions where I put 'Somewhat Important' or 'Most Important' we differed.

I suspect the "strength" of a response factors in greatly to the rating.

But I'm too lazy to test again.

[kentonio]

By not being correct.

Ah, this is one of those 'it's wrong because Sava says so' moments? Ok..

Yes. They do. If you're going to compare this to America, you have to find the "center" and split everything down the middle. That means BNP is "conservative".

No, because here the right wing isn't referred to as 'conservatives', conservatives here are a specific political party with specific policies and goals.

If you're going to compare this to America, then yes it does.

The center in the UK is considerably different to the US. The Labour party (yes even New Labour) would be absolute anathema to the Republicans. Their beliefs couldn't be more utterly different. Hell, the entire conservative party here would be considered RINO's at best by most of the Republicans.

Second, you are the one trying to compare this to America, not me. Many Republicans believe in those things too.

The premise was that the US political center is to the right of the UK political center. I'm sure there's good counter arguments to be had,m but pointing to a mythological breed of Republicans who believe in universal healthcare, welfare, workers rights, gay rights and abortion probably isn't it. Do you actually have any examples of elected Republicans who hold this collection of beliefs?

[kentonio]

Bear in mind that this is in comparison to the US. The Tories may have been trying to introduce some privatized services to the NHS (something they can go **** themselves for) but they'd never have the balls to try and remove the universal care principles. For one thing it'd cost them at least 75% of their own voters.

I'm about to not vote for them this election for the first time ever over the limited stuff they have done (NHS, religion, education). Don't imagine the tory vote is anywhere near right wing enough to support them through anything more radical.

[ColdWizard]

Liberal Democrat 81%
Conservative 79%

[Sava]

Ah, this is one of those 'it's wrong because Sava says so' moments? Ok..

I only point out facts. I don't make them. Making the argument about me is a concession. You've admitted defeat. You have no argument besides: "BUT YOU SAID IT. AND YOU ARE SAVA"

No, because here the right wing isn't referred to as 'conservatives', conservatives here are a specific political party with specific policies and goals.

Sadly, you are the one trying to make a comparison ABOUT AMERICA.

The center in the UK is considerably different to the US. The Labour party (yes even New Labour) would be absolute anathema to the Republicans. Their beliefs couldn't be more utterly different. Hell, the entire conservative party here would be considered RINO's at best by most of the Republicans.

If you want to compare individual parties, then do that. But that's not your argument... unless you are moving the goal posts already.

The premise was that the US political center is to the right of the UK political center.

Yes. And that's premise is incorrect.

Do you actually have any examples of elected Republicans who hold this collection of beliefs?

That's a different argument.

At least try to stick with one premise. I understand the shotgun approach (spreading a bunch of random bull**** around) makes it somewhat more likely that you could say something correct... sadly, a single correct point doesn't make your entire argument not suck.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Lib Dems: 92%
Scottish Nationals: 80% (LOL, because I'm strongly against devolution and Scottish Independence)
Labor: 79%
Green: 79%
Plaid Cymru: 77%
Conservatives: 61%

And ignore Sava. Every knows the UK is definitely to the left of the US politically.

[kentonio]

I only point out facts. I don't make them. Making the argument about me is a concession. You've admitted defeat. You have no argument besides: "BUT YOU SAID IT. AND YOU ARE SAVA"

Because "blahblahblah you are wrong, your premise is false... just admit it" is you pointing out facts?

Sadly, you are the one trying to make a comparison ABOUT AMERICA.

The whole point of the thread was about a comparison with America. You're not making much sense, are you high or something?

If you want to compare individual parties, then do that. But that's not your argument... unless you are moving the goal posts already.

You don't think using specific political parties who are accepted as having an established position in the political spectrum, might be useful to support the theory about the two spectrums being offset?

Yes. And that's premise is incorrect.

Something you keep saying without actually bothering to write anything that could support your position.

At least try to stick with one premise. I understand the shotgun approach (spreading a bunch of random bull**** around) makes it somewhat more likely that you could say something correct... sadly, a single correct point doesn't make your entire argument not suck.

Go get munchies. Possibly have a little lie down. Let's continue when you're actually capable of rational thought.

[Buster Crabbe's Uncle]

Sava capable of rational thought?