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  • #61
    Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
    In theory communism might be a workable system for a Nation-State. We happen to live in a world where practice > theory though.
    No, communism fails in theory just as much as it does in practice. The labor theory of value is trivial to deductively disprove. The entire system is predicated on broken philosophy.

    Originally posted by kentonio View Post
    Instead they're going to use it as a tool to push hardliner propaganda at home (hurting US interests in the rising moderate movement)


    I have to single that out for its stupidity.

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    • #62
      So very true. The U.S. may not like their choice in diplomats but the very nature of the U.N. is that each country can send who they want. As the host country we have a responsibility to allow that regardless of our feelings. This is a bad move.
      First responsibility of the US is to protect American citizens.
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      • #63
        Originally posted by regexcellent View Post


        I have to single that out for its stupidity.
        If you don't think a moderate Iran would be in US interests, then you're an idiot.*

        *There are obviously lots of things that make you an idiot, I don't want to make it seem like I'm just singling out one.

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        • #64
          That's just how reg responds to everything. It's like literary Tourettes or something. So don't worry about it, his posts are still devoid of meaning.
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          • #65
            Originally posted by kentonio View Post
            If you don't think a moderate Iran would be in US interests, then you're an idiot.*

            *There are obviously lots of things that make you an idiot, I don't want to make it seem like I'm just singling out one.
            No, that's not it. Have you seen the kind of **** they say about us already? Their propaganda could hardly get more acerbic. There are a number of places that translate Iranian Farsi-language press into English. Go read some of them. Calling for the apocalyptic destruction of America and Israel is pretty much their refrain.

            Appointing one of the 1979 hostage takers was probably meant to be a thumb in the eye to us anyway, Jesus Christ.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
              No, that's not it. Have you seen the kind of **** they say about us already? Their propaganda could hardly get more acerbic. There are a number of places that translate Iranian Farsi-language press into English. Go read some of them. Calling for the apocalyptic destruction of America and Israel is pretty much their refrain.
              Despite the propoganda, the Iranian hardliners are not able to shut off the Iranian people from world news and press. A solid majority of Iranians favour closer relations with the US, and there has been a growing movement of moderates wanting to turn Iran onto a less confrontational path. Things like this just give the hardliners ammunition to backup their claims that America just wants to dictate to Iran.

              Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
              Appointing one of the 1979 hostage takers was probably meant to be a thumb in the eye to us anyway, Jesus Christ.
              For goodness sake..

              1) The guy has previous been the Iranian ambassador to Australia, Italy, Belgium and the EU. He's a respected diplomat.
              2) He wasn't one of the hostage takers for ****s sake. They even asked one of the actual hostage takers about it, and he said this guy definitely wasn't one of them. He was a translator, who later became a prominent diplomat.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Buster's Uncle View Post
                The US begged to host the UN back in the day. Getting shirty about anyone else's diplomats less awful than a professional political murderer like Arafat is a tad hypocritical...
                Who else would have hosted it? Switzerland?

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                • #68
                  One of them, whatchcallit, neutral countries. Dunno.
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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by kentonio View Post
                    I'm sure Russia would be very happy to hear that.
                    They're already aware of that, as is everybody else; why else do you think it's all about NATO and not UN wrt Ukraine?
                    No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                    • #70
                      Yeah, speaking of Ukraine and the UN... what has the UN done? Not a damn thing.

                      Every conflict since the end of WW2... what has the UN done?

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                      • #71
                        The man is a terrorist and he is not welcome. End of story.
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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Sava View Post
                          Yeah, speaking of Ukraine and the UN... what has the UN done? Not a damn thing.

                          Every conflict since the end of WW2... what has the UN done?

                          didley****
                          The Korean War was nominally a UN intervention.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Dinner View Post
                            The man is a terrorist and he is not welcome. End of story.
                            Please descibe one terrorist act this man has commited. Just one.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by AAAAAAAAH! View Post
                              The Korean War was nominally a UN intervention.
                              And we're still picking up the pieces from that mess!

                              oh but yeah the UN did a good job... the Kim Jong family or whatever certainly was unable to rule with an iron fist for the last 60 years
                              To us, it is the BEAST.

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                              • #75
                                The UN entered the Korean conflict to repel the North Korean invasion, not to topple the North Korean gevernment. Their goal was acheived.
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