I've gotten another jury summons

[Ming]

I'm still waiting Ben... Having some trouble finding some meaningless crap that you will then claim proves you right?

[rah]

We're on a freaking message board where the whole point is to discuss our opinions. Right to privacy, my ass.

That doesn't take away our option to what we choose to discuss.

If I wanted total privacy, yes I would have never come here in the first place.

I also feel weird when people discuss dickgirls, so I don't enter those discussions. It has nothing to do with privacy.

[kentonio]

We're on a freaking message board where the whole point is to discuss our opinions. Right to privacy, my ass.

Really, do we do this with people's political beliefs? Someone goes after you for your politics and then say their own political beliefs are private and that's just taken as is? Give me a break.

Ok, so let's say someone posts a message bragging about how they've been ****ing a series of hookers while their pregnant wife is in the hospital. You say you think that's pretty despicable. That then means your family life is open season for anyone to question and dig into any time they feel like it right? Right?

[Imran Siddiqui]

I'll put it another way for kentonio - people CONSTANTLY roll their eyes at you calling yourself a conservative. They consistently claim you are no conservative. How would you feel if those people never said what they consider to be a 'conservative'. If you asked them what they think, they turn around and say "It's non of your business, my politically opinions are private!"?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Ok, so let's say someone posts a message bragging about how they've been ****ing a series of hookers while their pregnant wife is in the hospital. You say you think that's pretty despicable. That then means your family life is open season for anyone to question and dig into any time they feel like it right? Right?

If you say that is pretty despicable, I think the bragger has every right to ask you what you think the proper thing to do when your pregnant wife is in the hospital.

[rah]

I have never rolled my eyes when Ben called himself a Catholic so I don't think that's a fair comparison. I have said that he uses the religion to act like a jerk. Totally different.

[MikeH]

kentonio totally is a conservative, it's only Americans that roll their eyes at him, but the US definition of conservative now seems to be that you have to be a libertarian religious psycho.

[Imran Siddiqui]

I have never rolled my eyes when Ben called himself a Catholic so I don't think that's a fair comparison. I have said that he uses the religion to act like a jerk. Totally different.

Though you have also questioned his views on things like abortion, homosexuality, etc, when Ben says he believes those things because he's a Catholic, no?

kentonio totally is a conservative, it's only Americans that roll their eyes at him, but the US definition of conservative now seems to be that you have to be a libertarian religious psycho.

So even more essential those who roll eyes explain what they mean, right?

[kentonio]

I'll put it another way for kentonio - people CONSTANTLY roll their eyes at you calling yourself a conservative. They consistently claim you are no conservative. How would you feel if those people never said what they consider to be a 'conservative'. If you asked them what they think, they turn around and say "It's non of your business, my politically opinions are private!"?

Rah has spoken about his beliefs before on occasion. He's now chosen to stop doing so because Ben just uses it as an excuse to try and attack him. You can probably stop trying to paint this as something it isn't.

In the example you gave however, I probably wouldn't give a **** what they thought. Then again I don't give a **** what our US right wingers think about my beliefs now either. I certainly wouldn't feel any desire to start a creepy stalking campaign about it.

[MikeH]

So even more essential those who roll eyes explain what they mean, right?

Don't see why, it's pretty obvious.

I also think it's pretty clear what rah's views are TBH. The same as most moderate catholics in the UK.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Rah has spoken about his beliefs before on occasion. He's now chosen to stop doing so because Ben just uses it as an excuse to try and attack him. You can probably stop trying to paint this as something it isn't.

Ben attacks rah for his beliefs, rah attacks Ben for his beliefs. I fail to see the issue - quite frankly I am curious what doctrines rah holds to with respect to the Catholic Church. I was kind of surprised when he said he was professing Catholic. I thought for sure rah had left the Church.

[kentonio]

Ben attacks rah for his beliefs, rah attacks Ben for his beliefs. I fail to see the issue - quite frankly I am curious what doctrines rah holds to with respect to the Catholic Church. I was kind of surprised when he said he was professing Catholic. I thought for sure rah had left the Church.

Your curiousity is less important than someone right to privacy. Since when did any of this crap become more important than someones right to not be harassed?

This really should be Rule 01 of the forum, If you find yourself alone in agreement with Ben, you're probably having a moment of temporary insanity.

[Ben Kenobi]

I am curious what doctrines rah holds to with respect to the Catholic Church. I was kind of surprised when he said he was professing Catholic. I thought for sure rah had left the Church.

Same. Hence why the question. Extremely vocal about the failures of the Catholic church, invokes 'religion is a private affair', when challenged on where he actually agrees on the Church.

You would think that he would be open to tell us where he thinks the Church is right.

[Ben Kenobi]

I also think it's pretty clear what rah's views are TBH. The same as most moderate catholics in the UK.

What would distinguish a moderate from a liberal Catholic?

[Ben Kenobi]

I'll put it another way for kentonio - people CONSTANTLY roll their eyes at you calling yourself a conservative. They consistently claim you are no conservative. How would you feel if those people never said what they consider to be a 'conservative'. If you asked them what they think, they turn around and say "It's non of your business, my politically opinions are private!"?

I'm not exactly sure how kentonio's conservativism is differentiated from liberalism. Again, I'd love to hear MikeH explain how the two are different.