This Is Why Poor People's Bad Decisions Make Perfect Sense

[Hauldren Collider]

You are aware that you could swap Soviets for Americans in that sentence and it still be perfectly valid, right?

Lol no.

[kentonio]

Lol no.

You've presumably forgotten the rather extensive thread I made for you listing the democratic regimes overthrown by the CIA?

[Ben Kenobi]

That doesn't mean she buys her cigs there. Most people in Chicago buy theirs in Indiana. Or on-line.
You just can't make assumptions.

Given that she buys her food from convenience stores, does she strike you as the type to economize in this fashion?

[rah]

Again, another assumption. You really should stop making them.

[Hauldren Collider]

You've presumably forgotten the rather extensive thread I made for you listing the democratic regimes overthrown by the CIA?

You mean "democratic", kind of how Morsi was democratic? IE, democratic until he wins and then not ever again thereafter? Cause yeah, we bumped off a lot of those, since they were commies. I contend those countries are better off thanks to our intervention. Especially since they were often only elected due to meddling from the USSR.

[kentonio]

You are very stupid. The US supported a range of dictatorships, military junta and oppressive regimes which kept citizens of numerous countries around the world living under horrific conditions including the wide use of torture, systematic rape, complete political oppression and extra judicial killings. Many of the overthrown regimes were not communist under any rational definition. Even if they had been, condemning millions to a life of terror to stop them choosing their own government type is completely horrific. You should be ashamed of yourself for supporting it, as it spits in the face of everything your country professes to believe.

[Ben Kenobi]

Again, another assumption. You really should stop making them

Your objection is rather contrived. What's more likely - that she buys her smokes from a local store in CA (which is extremely expensive), or she buys them elsewhere?

[Ban Kenobi]

Again, another assumption. You really should stop making them.

How is he supposed to judge random strangers without making assumptions?

[N35t0r]

You mean "democratic", kind of how Morsi was democratic? IE, democratic until he wins and then not ever again thereafter? Cause yeah, we bumped off a lot of those, since they were commies. I contend those countries are better off thanks to our intervention. Especially since they were often only elected due to meddling from the USSR.

Yeah, sorry but **** you. Read up. I also like how you support freedom but only for people who think like you. Some freedom that is

Speaking for Argentina, the USA was instrumental in setting back democracy, free speech and economic development for decades; as well as supporting the rise to power of groups that tortured, kidnapped and murdered thousands of people.

[Ben Kenobi]

I was unaware that using the price of cigarettes in San Francisco to estimate tobacco expenses for someone who lives there and smokes, is considered an unreasonable assumption. It would seem, all else being equal that this is a more likely estimate than the other suggestions given.

[Ban Kenobi]

What is the price of cigarettes in San Francisco? Do you know?

[regexcellent]

You are aware that you could swap Soviets for Americans in that sentence and it still be perfectly valid, right?

Not even true in the slightest. We were unambiguously the good guys and we were doing the right thing when we overthrew Soviet aligned governments. I would rather suffer under a right wing dictatorship than any kind of planned economy.

We certainly wouldn't have had to prop up as many dictators if they weren't the ones who were keeping the commies out, see for example Mobutu in Zaire.

The both sides being equally evil revisionism of the cold war is both amusing and sad. I wonder how all the western commies felt when confronted with the reality of 1 in 4 or more East Germans fleeing into West Germany as soon as it was possible.

[Ben Kenobi]

What is the price of cigarettes in San Francisco? Do you know?

I estimated 10/per pack and about 300/month on smokes. Depending on the brand this gives us a reasonable back of the envelope calculation.

[N35t0r]

Not even true in the slightest. We were unambiguously the good guys and we were doing the right thing when we overthrew Soviet aligned governments.

**** you and your righteous bull****. You are not 'the good guys' when you promote death and the curtailing of liberties.

I would rather suffer under a right wing dictatorship than any kind of planned economy.

Because being tortured to death is clearly better than living in squalor That's why there are so many suicides in communist countris.

We certainly wouldn't have had to prop up as many dictators if they weren't the ones who were keeping the commies out, see for example Mobutu in Zaire.

I serously fail to see how Mobutu can be used as a positive axample of anything.

[regexcellent]

I wasn't using Mobutu as a positive example. We supported Mobutu because he was anti-communist and threw him away when we didn't need him anymore (although, admittedly, it's not clear the Congo is better off now than it was when he was in charge because the Congolese Civil War was seriously ****ing terrible)