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The error was in the lack of objectives. If we'd just invaded and overrun North Vietnam we probably would have won, and we now know in hindsight that the Chinese and the Russians didn't actually give that much of a **** about it (and certainly wouldn't start a nuclear war over it). We knew that then too just not as definitively.
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I mostly agree with all of that reg.
But who set those objectives? Last time I checked it was those of the Greatest Generation. So blaming the lose on boomers is just silly.It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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Who's setting the objectives on Afghanistan? It's the same mistake repeated. If you're going to fight a war, fight the damn war. If you're not gonna fight it proper then don't go in!But who set those objectives? Last time I checked it was those of the Greatest Generation. So blaming the lose on boomers is just silly.
The problem is - the war was won after Tet. Had the American people understood that - South Vietnam would still be free today. It's one thing to lose a war because you didn't commit enough to it - it's another to hold back and still earn a winning position and then piss it all away on a blunder.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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When the prize for being wrong is nuclear winter, you have to be really, REALLY sure to take gambles like that.Originally posted by regexcellent View PostComment
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Uh, no South Vietnam would not have been free. We would have forced an anti-communist dictatorship on the South Vietnamese people.Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View PostA lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.Comment
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We forced anti-communist dictatorships on South Korea, Taiwan, Greece, and a host of other currently free countries. South Vietnam would likely be free today, if it hadn't been over run by the North.Originally posted by MrFun View PostJohn Brown did nothing wrong.Comment
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South Korea, Taiwan, and Greece all had the luck of having the Greatest Generation looking out for them. South Vietnam had the Baby Boomers, which is why they were ****ed.Originally posted by Felch View PostI'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.Comment
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If we had won Vietnam we would have had to go to war with the Khmer Rouge after. There would have been more chance for a major war breaking out during the Cold War. Vietnam being allied to the USSR helped to cause friction between China and the USSR. That worked to our advantage much more than if we were on the ground in Vietnam risking a major war to end the Khmer Rouge.
Better to have lost.
Much better to have never gone in.Comment
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the world would be a much better place if people smoked more pot, dropped more acid and fought fewer wars.Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View PostNo, you pot-smoking, acid-tripping, dope-injecting hippie tie-die pussies ruined America's winning streak.
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Hilarious. Given that it certainly wasn't 'free' when American troops were stationed there, how do you work that out ?Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
Oh I know- it was once ruled by a Roman Catholic dictator. Who murdered his political opponents. That kind of 'free'.Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.
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QFTOriginally posted by Felch View PostIf there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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Claim: Obamacare User Sent Other People's 'Eligibility Letters'
Justin Hadley was using the Obamacare website when he was accidentally sent "eligibility letters" addressed to other people -- in other states.
"Justin Hadley logged on to HealthCare.gov to evaluate his insurance options after his health plan was canceled. What he discovered was an apparent security flaw that disclosed eligibility letters addressed to individuals from another state," the Heritage Foundation reports.
“I was in complete shock,” said Hadley, who contacted Heritage after becoming alarmed at the breach of privacy.
Hadley, a North Carolina father, buys his insurance on the individual market. His insurance company, Blue Cross Blue Shield of North Carolina, directed him to HealthCare.gov in a cancellation letter he received in September.
After multiple attempts to access the problem-plagued website, Hadley finally made it past the registration page Thursday. That’s when he was greeted with downloadable letters about eligibility — for two people in South Carolina.If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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Funny he decided to contact the Heritage foundation instead of healthcare.gov about the security flaw......“It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”
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Why on earth would he contact healthcare.gov? You don't seriously think that this is more likely to get fixed or publicized if he tells the people running the ****ty website vs. the press?If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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